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ch701builder(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:42 am Post subject: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting

All, I am at the point of getting ready to rivet the cabin together, but.... what have others been doing about primering/painting the Cabin Frame?



When I first got mine I shot a coat of rattle-can paint on it to keep the rust down as I get frost in my "shop" through the Winter, and of course as I was fitting the "Front Top Skin" off and on it chipped off the paint.



Now at this point, I can still take the Cabin Frame apart, what have others been doing. I don't know if I can justify spending $250+ dollars on White Epoxy Primer. Have others finished building, and then painted??



Thanks,

Keith

CH701 - scratch (mostly except for 4130 welded parts)

N 38.9940

W 105.1305

Alt. 9,100'

 

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robert.eli(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:01 am Post subject: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting

Keith,

  

 I have the same question. I have an older full kit,  so the 4130 parts are all pre-welded, but in a "raw" metal state. Luckily, I  have a heated/air-conditioned shop, and the raw metal has not developed rust. I  will add to your inquiry with regard to the painting of the exterior, with a  question about how are others protecting the interior of the welded tubing parts  after the painting is done?

  

 Robert

 CH701 - 2003 full kit.

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Tommy Walker

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 442
Location: Anniston, AL 36207

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:06 am Post subject: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting

Hi Keith,Hope you are doing well and getting to work on your 701 more.  Our airport was closed by the State of Alabama because it no longer met minimum runway requirements, so we are moving to another (more expensive) airport.  Rent is going from $30 a month to $100 monthly.  

 I'm busy working on the Kitfox SS and hope to be finished sometime this year.  We bought a used O200 for it and are in the process of overhauling it now.  

Headed to SNF next week to scout out some parts at the vendor and exchange hangars.

 

When we painted our 4130 steel parts on both 701s, we scuffed them with those unmentionable scotch pads, then shot them with several coats of rattle can primer.  After they cured for a month or so, I began to spray rattle can paint on them, waiting several days between coats.  It seemed to work ok, but if I had it to do again I might have used an expoxy primer because it sticks so much better.

 Take care and if you back in Bama, stop by, I will show you a Kitfox being built.

Tommy Walker in Alabama

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder(at)yahoo.com (ch701builder(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

 [quote]All, I am at the point of getting ready to rivet the cabin together, but.... what have others been doing about primering/painting the Cabin Frame?



When I first got mine I shot a coat of rattle-can paint on it to keep the rust down as I get frost in my "shop" through the Winter, and of course as I was fitting the "Front Top Skin" off and on it chipped off the paint.



Now at this point, I can still take the Cabin Frame apart, what have others been doing. I don't know if I can justify spending $250+ dollars on White Epoxy Primer. Have others finished building, and then painted??



Thanks,

Keith

CH701 - scratch (mostly except for 4130 welded parts)

N 38.9940

W 105.1305

Alt. 9,100'

 

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ch701builder(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:10 am Post subject: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting

Hi Tommy,

Good to hear from you. Too bad about the airport closing. That seemed like a nice little out-of-the-way airport. Was it State owned or private? It seems like if it was Private then it should still be open, but every state is different. I have been trying to get an airport here in Teller County, since there isn't even 1 private strip here in the county. It seems like there are more Pros than Cons for this area, but the County is not easy to work with.



Pros -- close to ski resorts that do not have an airport close to them except Denver or Colorado Springs. Gambling in Cripple Creek, Staging areas for Forest Fires, etc....

Anyway, I will do the cleaning of the 4130 and then shoot the primer and rattle can paint for  now.



Thanks,



Keith

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Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 8:02:56 AM

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 Hi Keith,Hope you are doing well and getting to work on your 701 more.  Our airport was closed by the State of Alabama because it no longer met minimum runway requirements, so we are moving to another (more expensive) airport.  Rent is going from $30 a month to $100 monthly.  

 I'm busy working on the Kitfox SS and hope to be finished sometime this year.  We bought a used O200 for it and are in the process of overhauling it now.  

Headed to SNF next week to scout out some parts at the vendor and exchange hangars.

 

When we painted our 4130 steel parts on both 701s, we scuffed them with those unmentionable scotch pads, then shot them with several coats of rattle can primer.  After they cured for a month or so, I began to spray rattle can paint on them, waiting several days between coats.  It seemed to work ok, but if I had it to do again I might have used an expoxy primer because it sticks so much better.

 Take care and if you back in Bama, stop by, I will show you a Kitfox being built.

Tommy Walker in Alabama

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder(at)yahoo.com (ch701builder(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

 [quote]All, I am at the point of getting ready to rivet the cabin together, but.... what have others been doing about primering/painting the Cabin Frame?



When I first got mine I shot a coat of rattle-can paint on it to keep the rust down as I get frost in my "shop" through the Winter, and of course as I was fitting the "Front Top Skin" off and on it chipped off the paint.



Now at this point, I can still take the Cabin Frame apart, what have others been doing. I don't know if I can justify spending $250+ dollars on White Epoxy Primer. Have others finished building, and then painted??



Thanks,

Keith

CH701 - scratch (mostly except for 4130 welded parts)

N 38.9940

W 105.1305

Alt. 9,100'

 

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n801bh(at)netzero.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:30 am Post subject: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting

I took all my steel parts to the local powder coating shop. They came out great and the whole bill was under 100 dollars. 

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Ben Haas

N801BH

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wildhorsesracing(at)yahoo
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:31 am Post subject: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting

We frequently have to paint rollbars in racecars and use a foam brush with enamel paint.  When it is done you can scuff off the brushmarks with some 1000+ grit sandpaper and wet sanding.   It will have a dull shine to it but look wonderful and be very hardy to scuff marks and wear.



PS. we always paint interiors in gray - darker is usually hot in the summer and lighter will show handprints, etc.

 

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From: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder(at)yahoo.com>

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Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 9:20:58 AM

Subject: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting



All, I am at the point of getting ready to rivet the cabin together, but.... what have others been doing about primering/painting the Cabin Frame?



When I first got mine I shot a coat of rattle-can paint on it to keep the rust down as I get frost in my "shop" through the Winter, and of course as I was fitting the "Front Top Skin" off and on it chipped off the paint.



Now at this point, I can still take the Cabin Frame apart, what have others been doing. I don't know if I can justify spending $250+ dollars on White Epoxy Primer. Have others finished building, and then painted??



Thanks,

Keith

CH701 - scratch (mostly except for 4130 welded parts)

N 38.9940

W 105.1305

Alt. 9,100'

 

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Tommy Walker

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 442
Location: Anniston, AL 36207

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:01 am Post subject: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting

Ben, you should see the kitfox fuse.  it is all power coated!Tommy

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I took all my steel parts to the local powder coating shop. They came out great and the whole bill was under 100 dollars.  

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rockiedog2

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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:13 am Post subject: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting

Hi guys

 Don't forget to paint the inside of the front  crossover. It'll rust from the front out. I plugged up one end with whatever,  masking tape works ok, and poured it full of primer then poured it out. It's  best to degrease it first by pouring lacquer thinner or rubbing alcohol thru it.  If you use epoxy primer it'll be less likely to absorb moisture like most  automotive type primers. John Bolding knows all about that stuff...he sold  industrial paint forever. 

 Joe

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powdajohn

Joined: 31 Mar 2011
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting

Learned a lot about primers from this thread. Thanks folks!

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