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sarg314(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:36 am Post subject: annual again

Thanks for those great responses to my question about the annual. Â I will definitely use those lists. Â 



I read thru section FAR 43. Â I didn't see anywhere a clear description of the timing of the annual inspection. Â If my airworthiness certificate was granted July 7, do I have to have the inspection completed by july 7? Â Is there a "grace period"? Â 

 



Is there a special logbook entry to be made?

Thanks

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:20 am Post subject: annual again

Mine was actually spelled out in my operating limitations â€“ see attached.  

   

I didnâ€™t steal these from Garyâ€¦â€¦but I didnâ€™t write them eitherâ€¦â€¦  

     

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Thanks for those great responses to my question about the annual.  I will definitely use those lists.      

   

    

I read thru section FAR 43.  I didn't see anywhere a clear description of the timing of the annual inspection.  If my airworthiness certificate was granted July 7, do I have to have the inspection completed by july 7?  Is there a "grace period"?    

    

   

    

Is there a special logbook entry to be made?  

    

   

    

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:04 am Post subject: annual again

Your condition inspection is due the

last day of the month. Most pilots I

know like to have the books signed

on the first day of the month so you

really get thirteen months



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On May 17, 2011, at 1:32 PM, thomas sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com (sarg314(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



[quote]Thanks for those great responses to my question about the annual.  I will definitely use those lists.  



I read thru section FAR 43.  I didn't see anywhere a clear description of the timing of the annual inspection.  If my airworthiness certificate was granted July 7, do I have to have the inspection completed by july 7?  Is there a "grace period"?   



Is there a special logbook entry to be made?

Thanks

-- 

Tom Sargent

 

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bobbyhester(at)newwavecom
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:13 am Post subject: annual again

You have till the end of the month and the logbook entry is in your operating limitations, I believe. 



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On May 17, 2011, at 1:32 PM, thomas sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com (sarg314(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



[quote]Thanks for those great responses to my question about the annual.  I will definitely use those lists.  



I read thru section FAR 43.  I didn't see anywhere a clear description of the timing of the annual inspection.  If my airworthiness certificate was granted July 7, do I have to have the inspection completed by july 7?  Is there a "grace period"?  

 



Is there a special logbook entry to be made?

Thanks

-- 

Tom Sargent

 

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n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:01 pm Post subject: annual again

Mine too was input by the FAA inspector in my log book and operating limitations.   He gave me 13 months for the first year.  A/W received 5/2/2011, conditional inspection due 6/30/12...



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On May 17, 2011, at 1:32 PM, thomas sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com (sarg314(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



[quote]Thanks for those great responses to my question about the annual.  I will definitely use those lists.  



I read thru section FAR 43.  I didn't see anywhere a clear description of the timing of the annual inspection.  If my airworthiness certificate was granted July 7, do I have to have the inspection completed by july 7?  Is there a "grace period"?  

 



Is there a special logbook entry to be made?

Thanks

-- 

Tom Sargent

 

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bicyclop(at)pacbell.net
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: annual again

Appendix D to part 43 contains the minimum       inspection requirements. The log entry should reference appendix       D. The exact verbiage should be in you oplims.

       

       Pax,

       

       Ed Holyoke

     

     On 5/17/2011 10:32 AM, thomas sargent wrote:     [quote]Thanks for those great responses to my question about       the annual. Â I will definitely use those lists. Â        

       

       I read thru section FAR 43. Â I didn't see anywhere a clear         description of the timing of the annual inspection. Â If my         airworthiness certificate was granted July 7, do I have to have         the inspection completed by july 7? Â Is there a "grace period"?         Â 

       

       

       Is there a special logbook entry to be made?

       

       

       Thanks         

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mrobert569(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:59 am Post subject: annual again

Sorry to do this to you, but your inspector cannot "give" you 13 months as the requirement to do the condition inspection every 12 xcalendar months is in FAR 91 as well as clearly called out in the aircraft operating limitations.  As your a/w was received on 5/2/2011 then you will need to inspect but the end of May, 2012, which effectively gives you almost 13 months.  Idealy, do the condition inspection the last week of may and sign it off on June 1.  Then the next year the condition inpsection won't be due until June 30.

  

 For Tom,

  

 A really good place to find POHs and inspeciton checklists is on the Van's Air Force website.  Several people, myself included, have posted RV POH's there.  And almost every one of them includes a section with a condition inpseciton checklist.

  

  

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From: n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net

Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:55:35 -0400

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com



 Mine too was input by the FAA inspector in my log book and operating limitations.   He gave me 13 months for the first year.  A/W received 5/2/2011, conditional inspection due 6/30/12...



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On May 17, 2011, at 1:32 PM, thomas sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 [quote] Thanks for those great responses to my question about the annual.  I will definitely use those lists.   



 I read thru section FAR 43.  I didn't see anywhere a clear description of the timing of the annual inspection.  If my airworthiness certificate was granted July 7, do I have to have the inspection completed by july 7?  Is there a "grace period"?  

 



 Is there a special logbook entry to be made?

 



 Thanks

-- 

Tom Sargent



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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:55 am Post subject: annual again

Not going to argue with you, but the FAA did my A/W inspection and gave me my op limits.  He specifically stated in my op limits the 1st conditional inspection is due 6/30/2012.  He told me he always gives 13 months the first year.  He did the same thing when he certified my RV-4 in 2002...





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On May 19, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Mike Robertson <mrobert569(at)hotmail.com (mrobert569(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:



[quote] Sorry to do this to you, but your inspector cannot "give" you 13 months as the requirement to do the condition inspection every 12 xcalendar months is in FAR 91 as well as clearly called out in the aircraft operating limitations.  As your a/w was received on 5/2/2011 then you will need to inspect but the end of May, 2012, which effectively gives you almost 13 months.  Idealy, do the condition inspection the last week of may and sign it off on June 1.  Then the next year the condition inpsection won't be due until June 30.

  

 For Tom,

  

 A really good place to find POHs and inspeciton checklists is on the Van's Air Force website.  Several people, myself included, have posted RV POH's there.  And almost every one of them includes a section with a condition inpseciton checklist.

  

  

 Mike Robertson

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From: [url=mailto:n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net]n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net (n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net)[/url]

Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:55:35 -0400

To: [url=mailto:rv-list(at)matronics.com]rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)[/url]



 Mine too was input by the FAA inspector in my log book and operating limitations.   He gave me 13 months for the first year.  A/W received 5/2/2011, conditional inspection due 6/30/12...



Sent from my iPhone

 

On May 17, 2011, at 1:32 PM, thomas sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com (sarg314(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 

  	  Quote: 	
		   Thanks for those great responses to my question about the annual.  I will definitely use those lists.   



 I read thru section FAR 43.  I didn't see anywhere a clear description of the timing of the annual inspection.  If my airworthiness certificate was granted July 7, do I have to have the inspection completed by july 7?  Is there a "grace period"?  

 



 Is there a special logbook entry to be made?

 



 Thanks

-- 

Tom Sargent



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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: annual again

Mike R is correct. Not even an FAA employee can break the rules. 12 

months is the rule. Now if he did your airworthiness inspection on the 

last day of the month, I suppose he could date it for the next day.

Kelly

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On 5/19/2011 8:49 AM, Michael Kraus wrote:

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		   Not going to argue with you, but the FAA did my A/W inspection and gave

 me my op limits. He specifically stated in my op limits the 1st

 conditional inspection is due 6/30/2012. He told me he always gives 13

 months the first year. He did the same thing when he certified my RV-4

 in 2002...

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 On May 19, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Mike Robertson <mrobert569(at)hotmail.com

 <mailto:mrobert569(at)hotmail.com>> wrote:

> Sorry to do this to you, but your inspector cannot "give" you 13

> months as the requirement to do the condition inspection every 12

> xcalendar months is in FAR 91 as well as clearly called out in the

> aircraft operating limitations. As your a/w was received on 5/2/2011

> then you will need to inspect but the end of May, 2012, which

> effectively gives you almost 13 months. Idealy, do the condition

> inspection the last week of may and sign it off on June 1. Then the

> next year the condition inpsection won't be due until June 30.

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