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Lonewolf1

Joined: 15 May 2011
Posts: 5
Location: mid Missouri

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:16 am Post subject: 1st ultralight

My 1st ultralight,original Firestar.447 Rotax,b box with a Warp Drive ground adjustable prop.

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Jimmy Young

Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Posts: 182
Location: Missouri City, TX

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:32 am Post subject: Re: 1st ultralight

Ron,



Welcome to the Kolb List. It's always good to hear about a new Kolb owner.



What is your flying background?



Jimmy Young

Missouri City, TX

Kolb FS II, HKS 700

N7043P

russkinne(at)mac.com
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:36 am Post subject: 1st ultralight

Nice Job Ron!!

She looks beautiful.

Russ K



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Lonewolf1

Joined: 15 May 2011
Posts: 5
Location: mid Missouri

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: 1st ultralight

fLying background LOL,Well i had 2 hours in a 150 cessna 20 years ago,I have built and flown some large scale rc aircraft and a couple of helicopters and just got 5.7 hours dual instruction in a Quicksilver 2s and 2 hours in a Piper Cherokee.Leaving next week to get a few more hours in thw Q 2s.Hopefully i am confident enough buy then to solo.Trying to find someone local with a MKlll to get alittle time.Any good first flight advice?

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Dennis Thate

Joined: 18 Nov 2010
Posts: 362

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: 1st ultralight

Awesome looking little Kolb....Enjoy it !

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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject: 1st ultralight

Ron 

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gotime242

Joined: 09 Jul 2010
Posts: 52
Location: West Palm Beach, FL

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: 1st ultralight

 	  Lonewolf1 wrote: 	
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Airspeed is life. Keep your eye on it...

Arksey(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:59 pm Post subject: 1st ultralight

nice looking plane...thanks for posting...jim swan

  

 jim swan  firestar ll 503 michigan

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stogie6

Joined: 30 Mar 2011
Posts: 5
Location: Colonial Airpark, Desoto County, MS

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: 1st ultralight

Looks like a great plane. I picked up one in mid March. Looking forward to flying it as well.

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WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.co
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: 1st ultralight

Hi Ron,

  

 Beautiful plane you have there.  Regarding flight advice,  here's my recommendations.  Do a lot of taxiing.  Not only to learn  how to taxi, but to become familiar with your proximity to the ground.   This will help you judge your landing, because you have to get the Kolb really  close to the ground before the flare.  Also, as most experienced Kolb  pilots will tell you, approach your landings with power, about 3500 RPM, to  prevent stalling during the flair.  You must keep it flying until you are  really close to the ground.  No 10 or 15 foot flairs in a Kolb.   Because of the light weight and drag of the Kolbs, they lose momentum  quickly and if you are too high when it stalls, you will drop in hard and bend  your landing gear legs, or worse.  Homer Kolb wrote in the original  FireStar builders manual a section on how to fly it.  He said to do crow  hops.  I know a lot of pilots on this list disagree, but I did it his way  and it worked good for me.  Hold the stick all the way back to prevent the  thrust from pushing the Kolb over onto it's nose.  Slowly add throttle and  at about 3000+ RPM it will lift off in ground effect, then you immediately  reduce the throttle some, let the stick go forward  slightly and it will settle back down onto the ground.  Just  don't let it get too high.  Although I had 42 hours of flight time  before flying my Kolb, I hadn't flown for more than 27 years.  I got  an hour of time in an Aeronca Champ before trying the Kolb.  Your low time  means you need to be very cautious.  Good luck.

  

  Bill Varnes

Original Kolb FireStar

Audubon NJ

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fLying background LOL,Well i had 2 hours    in a 150 cessna 20 years ago,I have built and flown some large scale rc    aircraft and a couple of helicopters and just got 5.7 hours dual instruction    in a Quicksilver 2s and 2 hours in a Piper Cherokee.Leaving next week to get a    few more hours in thw Q 2s.Hopefully i am confident enough buy then to    solo.Trying to find someone local with a MKlll to get alittle time.Any good    first flight advice?



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rickofudall

Joined: 19 Sep 2009
Posts: 1392
Location: Udall, KS, USA

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:14 pm Post subject: 1st ultralight

Ron, Looks like a nice little plane, I hope you have many happy hours flying her.Not to be the turd in the punch bowl, but your Firestar most likely is not a legal ultralight, they're too heavy. 

It probably won't ever cause you a problem, but just in case, don't have the number one dead giveaway, make sure you don't have a fuel tank bigger than 5 gallons. That's the legal limit and except for a second seat, it's the one thing that someone can walk up and see that your aircraft doesn't qualify.

 



Rick Girard



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undoctor

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Posts: 212
Location: Bethelhem, PA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:42 am Post subject: 1st ultralight

Not to be the turd in the punch bowl, but your Firestar most likely 

is not a

       legal ultralight, they're too heavy.

       It probably won't ever cause you a problem, but just in case, 

don't have the

       number one dead giveaway, make sure you don't have a fuel tank 

bigger than 5

       gallons. That's the legal limit and except for a second seat, 

it's the one

       thing that someone can walk up and see that your aircraft doesn't 

qualify.



       Rick Girard



List,



I've never seen this discussed here before so I have a question about 

the max 5 gallon tank.  Is there any rule against carrying jugs of 

gas/oil mixture in a compartment behind the 5 gallon tank in use?  When 

I fly beyond my 5 gallon return point I carry up to three jugs of mix 

and land to pour them into my five gallon tank.  I can't see the 

difference between carrying bottles of two cycle oil and mixing with 

available gas and carrying jugs of already mixed.  Any thoughts or 

experiences?



Dave Kulp



FireFly 11DMK

williamtsullivan(at)att.n
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: 1st ultralight

Dave- Going by memory, the discussion came to the conclusion that non-functioning cans of gas counted as freight.  I think you are OK.  Might have to check the archives.  It's one of those funny things, like they care about the unloaded weight and not the gross weight.

  

                                               Bill Sullivan

                                               Windsor Locks, Ct.

                                               FS 447



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To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 11:40 AM



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  Not to be the turd in the punch bowl, but your Firestar most likely is not a

      legal ultralight, they're too heavy.

      It probably won't ever cause you a problem, but just in case, don't have the

      number one dead giveaway, make sure you don't have a fuel tank bigger than 5

      gallons. That's the legal limit and except for a second seat, it's the one

      thing that someone can walk up and see that your aircraft doesn't qualify.



      Rick Girard



List,



I've never seen this discussed here before so I have a question about the max 5 gallon tank.  Is there any rule against carrying jugs of gas/oil  mixture in a compartment behind the 5 gallon tank in use?  When I fly beyond my 5 gallon return point I carry up to three jugs of mix and land to pour them into my five gallon tank.  I can't see the difference between carrying bottles of two cycle oil and mixing with available gas and carrying jugs of already mixed.  Any thoughts or experiences?



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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:17 am Post subject: 1st ultralight

At 11:40 AM 5/17/2011, David Kulp wrote:



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		  I've never seen this discussed here before so I have a question about the max 5 gallon tank.  Is there any rule against carrying jugs of gas/oil mixture in a compartment behind the 5 gallon tank in use?  When I fly beyond my 5 gallon return point I carry up to three jugs of mix and land to pour them into my five gallon tank.  I can't see the difference between carrying bottles of two cycle oil and mixing with available gas and carrying jugs of already mixed.  Any thoughts or experiences? 	


 The rules specify a fuel capacity not exceeding 5 gallons to qualify as an ultralight.  Many have interpreted this to mean that carrying an extra can is, if not within the intent of the rules, at least within the letter.  However, like so many things, it would probably come down to the mood or attitude of the FAA guy who's enforcing the rules.



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Lonewolf1

Joined: 15 May 2011
Posts: 5
Location: mid Missouri

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: 1st ultralight

Thanks Rick for the advice.The gentleman who previously owned this Firestar carried a 3 gallon aux fuel tank.I have since removed it.

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rickofudall

Joined: 19 Sep 2009
Posts: 1392
Location: Udall, KS, USA

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject: 1st ultralight

Ron, The FAA has a publication you might want to look at. Advisory Circular 103-7 (AC 103-7) "The Ultralight Vehicle" explains the ins and outs of determining if your aircraft qualifies (or at least let you know what "the man" will look for). You can download it here: http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentID/22640

 [/url]There's also AC 103-6 "Ultralight Vehicle Operations, Airports, ATC, and Weather"

 [url=http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentID/22639]http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentID/22639

 [/url]Both are free.

Good luck and safe flying.

Rick



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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:02 am Post subject: 1st ultralight

Re. amount of fuel carried.



We don`t have that problem here. We work on MTOW so if you are a little guy 

you can carry more juice.



In any case there is no problem carrying extra fuel provided you cannot 

acces it while in flight.



Cheers



Pat

Lonewolf1

Joined: 15 May 2011
Posts: 5
Location: mid Missouri

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:47 am Post subject: Re: 1st ultralight

Thanks again Rick.I read both of these a couple of months ago.I did some research into part 103 enforcement awhile back.I talked to a bunch of different EAA chapter members and i have yet to find even ONE single seat "vehicle" that has even been ramp checked,let alone ticketed for anything.A FAA investigator at our local airport looking into a nose wheel collapsee when asked about the subject said "We don't bother single seat "vehicles"." He went as far to say he didnt think there had EVER been a citation written to a single seat "vehicle" for being overwieght.

   Then to top it off,Quicksilver which was heavy on the minds of the FAA when 103 was drafted,will tell you that NONE of there "vehicles will wieght under the 254 limit.I was told a stock 447 powered mx wieghs 270 with NO brakes,no instruments ect.

   I found out that the vast majority of part 103 "vehicles" miss 103 specs by a little some where.

  Thanks again for the insight thou.

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Ozarkflyer

Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Posts: 68
Location: Mtn. View, AR

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:34 am Post subject: Re: 1st ultralight

Following this discussion with interest and have wondered if your insurance carrier might want to know if you're flying "illegally", i.e. flying as a Part 103 but not meeting the requirements.  Weight, speed, fuel cap, etc.  Could they not refuse claims if not within the rules?

Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:25 am Post subject: 1st ultralight

Hmmm.  Well, consider that most ultralight insurance claims are 

probably for accidents during ground operations, and it's not illegal 

to _taxi_ an overweight ultralight, only to _fly_ it...



-Dana



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 Following this discussion with interest and have wondered if your insurance carrier might want to know if you're flying "illegally", i.e. flying as a Part 103 but not meeting the requirements.  Weight, speed, fuel cap, etc.  Could they not refuse claims if not within the rules?

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