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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:14 am Post subject: paint code question for Jaguar cowl

Hi guys,



I am installing the Jaguar Cowl and need help figuring my paint codes. Please take a look at the attached picture. The tag on the firewall says "Finish and Trim 8-EPHM-29-P". I searched GG archives and among other useful things I found this list of the original paint codes:

 http://grumman.net/archive/2009/msg07222.html

The white paint apparently is Polyurethane Imron 817U, but what are the 2 shades of blue I have on top? 



Also, both shades of blue are still nice and shiny after 34 years, but the white is chalking and in bad shape. Why is it so? Is it because the blue is not a polyurethane paint but enamel or lacquer and it was baked on? Later I also want to re-paint the wings so I wonder if I can prevent the paint from chalking after a while. 



Here are 7 blue codes I found in the GG codes list: 



     Grumman #      Name                Vendor part #

---------------------------------------------------------

Polyurethane:

-------------

     APS-1154-228   Patriot Blue        DuPont 6544U

                    Camouflage Blue     DuPont 95605U



Acrylic Enamel?

-------------

     APS-1154-301   Bright Blue Metallic  DuPont 5574A

     APS-1154-306   Regal Blue            DuPont 5543A

     APS-1154-307   Grabber Blue          DuPont 5205A



Laquer?

------------

     APS-1154-102   Riviera Blue     Ditzler Randolph  "X" DDL 13830

     APS-1154-128   Patriot Blue     Randolph     H-9170-R

Thank you,

-Boris

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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject: paint code question for Jaguar cowl

Hi Boris,

If the white is still the original 817U, it will buff out nicely.  Odds are, if the blue is still shiny, it's been repainted.

The colors on the 70's era Grummans are RM Centauri Acrylic Enamel.  It's not baked on.  

Also, the colors are not custom colors.  The orange, for example, is the orange from a 73 Volkswagon.  The metallic brown is from a Dodge or Plymouth of around the same year.  I'm sure if you take your ELT cover to an automotive paint store and try to match paint colors from 73 on, you'll find yours.

Also, DuPont has totally revised the paint codes for paint sold in California.  So, the numbers may not match up.  Most paint stores have the  old codes though.  

So, tell us, how's the installation going?  How many shims on the engine mounts did you need?

Gary



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Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 12:11:07 PM

Subject: paint code question for Jaguar cowl



Hi guys,



I am installing the Jaguar Cowl and need help figuring my paint codes. Please take a look at the attached picture. The tag on the firewall says "Finish and Trim 8-EPHM-29-P". I searched GG archives and  among other useful things I found this list of the original paint codes:

 http://grumman.net/archive/2009/msg07222.html

The white paint apparently is Polyurethane Imron 817U, but what are the 2 shades of blue I have on top? 



Also, both shades of blue are still nice and shiny after 34 years, but the white is chalking and in bad shape. Why is it so? Is it because the blue is not a polyurethane paint but enamel or lacquer and it was baked on? Later I also want to re-paint the wings so I wonder if I can prevent the paint from chalking after a while. 



Here are 7 blue codes I found in the GG codes list: 



     Grumman #      Name                Vendor part #

---------------------------------------------------------

Polyurethane:

-------------

     APS-1154-228    Patriot Blue        DuPont 6544U

                    Camouflage Blue     DuPont 95605U



Acrylic Enamel?

-------------

     APS-1154-301   Bright Blue Metallic  DuPont 5574A

     APS-1154-306   Regal Blue            DuPont 5543A

     APS-1154-307   Grabber Blue          DuPont 5205A



Laquer?

------------

     APS-1154-102   Riviera Blue     Ditzler Randolph  "X" DDL 13830

     APS-1154-128   Patriot Blue     Randolph     H-9170-R

Thank you,

-Boris

   

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