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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:29 am    Post subject: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil Reply with quote
Awhile back I posted a request for information about the compatibility of Pennzoil Air Cooled two stroke oil and Pennzoil Marine two stroke oil. The question came up again because a customer's airplane with a 582 has Air Cooled in both the injection and rotary valve reservoirs and my stock of Air Cooled is nearly gone. This morning I called Shell's technical hot line (Shell Oil owns the Pennzoil brand). The answer is, Air Cooled CANNOT be mixed with Marine or any other oil that meets the TC-W3 specs. The additive packages are incompatible and will cause coagulation. So, the systems have to be purged of the Air Cooled oil when a change over is made (Air Cooled is no longer available once stocks are gone, if they aren't already).
So, if you or your customers are using Pennzoil Air Cooled you might want to start thinking about the necessary service to purge the system(s).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil Reply with quote
If it gets to the point that you can no longer find Pennzoil, I have had great luck with Phillips Injex in Rotax 2 strokes since 1984. As a bonus, the exhaust is not as full of greasy soot as Pennzoil. And as you mentioned, I would purge the system if I changed over.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil Reply with quote
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> Is the air-cooled oil actually discontinued? It's still available locally here, though only in 8oz bottles.

I suspect their new 2-stroke aircraft oil is the exact same thing, with a new label and, of course, a new [higher] price.

-Dana

Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> wrote:[quote] Awhile back I posted a request for information about the compatibility of Pennzoil Air Cooled two stroke oil and Pennzoil Marine two stroke oil. The question came up again because a customer's airplane with a 582 has Air Cooled in both the injection and rotary valve reservoirs and my stock of Air Cooled is nearly gone. This morning I called Shell's technical hot line (Shell Oil owns the Pennzoil brand). The answer is, Air Cooled CANNOT be mixed with Marine or any other oil that meets the TC-W3 specs. The additive packages are incompatible and will cause coagulation. So, the systems have to be purged of the Air Cooled oil when a change over is made (Air Cooled is no longer available once stocks are gone, if they aren't already).
So, if you or your customers are using Pennzoil Air Cooled you might want to start thinking about the necessary service to purge the system(s).
Rick Girard

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Mk IIIC
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It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:09 pm    Post subject: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil Reply with quote
I saw in a hardware store a 2 stroke oil that did not offer the tcw3 standard so as it was the cheepest oil on the shelf. how did it rate to the penz we have been using?  It was made in Ohio.


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Awhile back I posted a request for information about the compatibility of Pennzoil Air Cooled two stroke oil and Pennzoil Marine two stroke oil. The question came up again because a customer's airplane with a 582 has Air Cooled in both the injection and rotary valve reservoirs and my stock of Air Cooled is nearly gone. This morning I called Shell's technical hot line (Shell Oil owns the Pennzoil brand). The answer is, Air Cooled CANNOT be mixed with Marine or any other oil that meets the TC-W3 specs. The additive packages are incompatible and will cause coagulation. So, the systems have to be purged of the Air Cooled oil when a change over is made (Air Cooled is no longer available once stocks are gone, if they aren't already).
So, if you or your customers are using Pennzoil Air Cooled you might want to start thinking about the necessary service to purge the system(s).


Rick Girard

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Thanks, Homer GBYM


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