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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:47 am    Post subject: Mechanics of adding resistors Reply with quote

Hi all,

I am wiring a Grand Rapids EIS 4000 into my RV 8. The unit has a 4.8V "exciter" circuit. Two auxiliary inputs are for fuel tank sensors.  I understand from the wiring diagram here

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0H4ITpn8XkreroJCKrbKAiMAAupS245hbJv750-QGDWR_sM4xYTe_rS3WbvLLocO9yHTwpDwbZCoOirg3wW5zJBdnGsGgN0/File0002.pdf

that I wire a 470 ohm resistor between the 4.8V exciter circuit and the wire to the fuel tank sensor. The other end of the fuel tank sensor goes to ground.

Since there are two circuits, one to each fuel tank, I had thought to solder or crimp the two resistors to the exciter wire and then strip a half inch of the wire from the EIS unit to the fuel sensor. The ends of the resistors would be soldered into the sensor wire and the joint covered in heat shrink.

I began to wonder how much heat would be generated and if I need to protect this from other wires. I wouldn't think there would be much heat since there is little current in a sensor.

Can anyone shed some light on the mechanics of how I should set this up?

Regards

Michael Wynn
RV 8 Wiring
San Ramon, CA

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:44 am    Post subject: Mechanics of adding resistors Reply with quote

At 08:41 AM 6/27/2011, you wrote:

Hi all,

I am wiring a Grand Rapids EIS 4000 into my RV 8. The unit has a 4.8V "exciter" circuit. Two auxiliary inputs are for fuel tank sensors. I understand from the wiring diagram here

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0H4ITpn8XkreroJCKrbKAiMAAupS245hbJv750-QGDWR_sM4xYTe_rS3WbvLLocO9yHTwpDwbZCoOirg3wW5zJBdnGsGgN0/File0002.pdf

I tried to open that link but was not successful . . .

that I wire a 470 ohm resistor between the 4.8V exciter circuit and the wire to the fuel tank sensor. The other end of the fuel tank sensor goes to ground.

Since there are two circuits, one to each fuel tank, I had thought to solder or crimp the two resistors to the exciter wire and then strip a half inch of the wire from the EIS unit to the fuel sensor. The ends of the resistors would be soldered into the sensor wire and the joint covered in heat shrink.

Like this?

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See: http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Homeless/Homeless_Components.htm


I began to wonder how much heat would be generated and if I need to protect this from other wires. I wouldn't think there would be much heat since there is little current in a sensor.

Correct. If there's a reason for selecting larger
than necessary for electrical performance, it's for
mechanical robustness. Consider 1/2 watt resistors
for this task.



Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:04 am    Post subject: Mechanics of adding resistors Reply with quote

Hello Michael,

Just finished a similar install on a Dynon D180 and Rotax with multiple resistors for current loop sensors.   Choose a point in-line for the resistors that you can mechanically support the wire bundle.  Trim the resistor leads to about 1/2" slip multiple layers of heat shrink tubing onto the wires before assembly if unable to add heatshrink post assembly.   I soldered all connections.  Heatshrink tubing over each resistor, then bundle and larger heatshrink tubing.  Be sure to extend the heatshrink tubing 1" or further  beyond the connection for mechanical support.   The current the resistors is limiting is in the 10s of milliamps range and thus almost no power (heat) is dissapated.


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On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:41 AM, <MLWynn(at)aol.com (MLWynn(at)aol.com)> wrote:
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Hi all,
 
I am wiring a Grand Rapids EIS 4000 into my RV 8.  The unit has a 4.8V "exciter" circuit.  Two auxiliary inputs are for fuel tank sensors.  I understand from the wiring diagram here
 
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0H4ITpn8XkreroJCKrbKAiMAAupS245hbJv750-QGDWR_sM4xYTe_rS3WbvLLocO9yHTwpDwbZCoOirg3wW5zJBdnGsGgN0/File0002.pdf
 
that I wire a 470 ohm resistor between the 4.8V exciter circuit and the wire to the fuel tank sensor.  The other end of the fuel tank sensor goes to ground.
 
Since there are two circuits, one to each fuel tank, I had thought to solder or crimp the two resistors to the exciter wire and then strip a half inch of the wire from the EIS unit to the fuel sensor.  The ends of the resistors would be soldered into the sensor wire and the joint covered in heat shrink.
 
I began to wonder how much heat would be generated and if I need to protect this from other wires.  I wouldn't think there would be much heat since there is little current in a sensor.
 
Can anyone shed some light on the mechanics of how I should set this up?
 
Regards
 
Michael Wynn
RV 8 Wiring
San Ramon, CA
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Mechanics of adding resistors Reply with quote

Thanks, Bob

You are right on top of everything, as usual.

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In a message dated 6/27/2011 7:45:17 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com writes:
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At 08:41 AM 6/27/2011, you wrote:

Hi all,

I am wiring a Grand Rapids EIS 4000 into my RV 8. The unit has a 4.8V "exciter" circuit. Two auxiliary inputs are for fuel tank sensors. I understand from the wiring diagram here

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0H4ITpn8XkreroJCKrbKAiMAAupS245hbJv750-QGDWR_sM4xYTe_rS3WbvLLocO9yHTwpDwbZCoOirg3wW5zJBdnGsGgN0/File0002.pdf

I tried to open that link but was not successful . . .

that I wire a 470 ohm resistor between the 4.8V exciter circuit and the wire to the fuel tank sensor. The other end of the fuel tank sensor goes to ground.

Since there are two circuits, one to each fuel tank, I had thought to solder or crimp the two resistors to the exciter wire and then strip a half inch of the wire from the EIS unit to the fuel sensor.  The ends of the resistors would be soldered into the sensor wire and the joint covered in heat shrink.

Like this?



See: http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Homeless/Homeless_Components.htm


I began to wonder how much heat would be generated and if I need to protect this from other wires. I wouldn't think there would be much heat since there is little current in a sensor.

Correct. If there's a reason for selecting larger
than necessary for electrical performance, it's for
mechanical robustness. Consider 1/2 watt resistors
for this task.

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:17 pm    Post subject: Mechanics of adding resistors Reply with quote

At 04:21 PM 6/27/2011, you wrote:
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Thanks, Bob

You are right on top of everything, as usual.

It's worthy of note that others had the same
advice. If more than one individual has been-there-
done-that, it MUST be a practical recipe for
success.




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