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Lew Gallagher

Joined: 04 Jan 2008
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Location: Greenville , SC

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:37 am Post subject: Hartwell H-5000 oil door fastener

I am helping another RV owner with his cowl and he wants to install the Hartwell H-5000 oil door fastener that he picked up at Sun 'N Fun.  Looking at the Hartwell spec sheet, it looks like these come in various combinations of door thickness and skin thickness.  



The one he gave me is .102/-.102 (stamped on trigger and latch tongue).  This looks like it would work on two flush surfaces instead of the door offset in the Van's cowl.  Do you just cut the lip where the fasteners go, or are others using a different depth offset on the tongue?



Later, - Lew

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AirMike

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:42 pm Post subject: Hartwell H-5000 oil door fastener

These fasteners are ultra-awesome. I believe that you are correct and that they do come in different offsets. On my oil door, mine there is a slight offset of about 1/8". You need the offset to secure the door to the cowl. You also need to reinforce the outer side of the door to resist the high internal air pressure.

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AirMike

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:55 pm Post subject: Hartwell H-5000 oil door fastener

pic of inside of oil door

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Lew Gallagher

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:13 pm Post subject: Hartwell H-5000 oil door fastener

Thanks Mike.  I think the 1/8" offset would be about right ... but that's 

not what he's got.  Tonight he mentioned that others on the -8 are just 

using a short piece of hinge as a fastener, and pulling the pin through the 

firewall (the -8 has a baggage compartment/access door right at that area 

which makes it easy to pull) -- so no fastener showing at all.  I think I 

can make that idea work.



Later, - Lew



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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:24 pm Post subject: Hartwell H-5000 oil door fastener

Mine have an offset too. I purchased a 6 pack on ebay and have used them on 2 planes.

  

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:28 pm Post subject: Hartwell H-5000 oil door fastener

Note: we crafted our own hidden hinge for both the forward baggage door and oil door. 

  

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject: Hartwell H-5000 oil door fastener

Lew,

Are you building an 8 now?

As an observation I check oil levels often. I would not like to open and

close the forward baggage door as many times as I open/close the oil door.



Robin

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Lew Gallagher

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Location: Greenville , SC

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: Hartwell H-5000 oil door fastener

Hey Robin,



My reputation as a whore for building is spreading!  I'm still collecting 

parts for a -10 to hire out to help another pilot built one someday.   I 

certainly don't want to offend anyone, but since my first introduction to 

building RV's is a -10, I tend to see the two seaters as somehow not a 

"real" plane     OK, I just ducked in anticipation of the non-10 builders 

lurking!



Basically I'm helping guys that get stuck/intimidated by the 

fiberglass/primer/paint/finishing stuff or re-doing some aluminum work for 

them that didn't turn out right.  And there are a lot more -8 builders in my 

area than -10 builders.  What spare time!



The -8 flyers that use the hinge fastener on the oil door say they open the 

baggage door every time anyway to check in there, allow for cooling, carry a 

dipstick rag there, whatever -- I dunno, I'm just repeating what I was told.



Later, - Lew

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