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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:38 pm    Post subject: Sold on whiskers - Redux Reply with quote

Hi

After reading this thread, I thought I would revisit my antenna decisions.
Although I have a Bob Archer (uninstalled) antenna, I think the "sold on
whiskers" thread makes this to be a less than optimal antenna choice.

So my questions are:

* Given a SL30 / GNS 430 WAAS combo, I expect that I will need a TRIPLEXER
to split a single NAV signal into a NAV/GS for the 4030 and a NAV signal for
the SL30 (which I understand has an internal splitter). Is this correct.

* Is there any difference, other than cost, to the RA Allen and Comant VOR /
LOC / GS antennas. One is $130 and the other $290 ($CDN).

Inquiring minds need to know....

Cheers

Les


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:56 am    Post subject: Sold on whiskers - Redux Reply with quote

Les,

Actually, to use one antenna for an SL-30 and a GNS-430, you need two separate items. You need a special splitter for the SL-30 that gives both VOR and G/S to both outlets, because the SL-30 needs both into one antenna connector. Then you need a Diplexer that splits VOR from G/S and gives them each to a separate antenna connector in the 430. Stein should be able to tell you the actual parts used. Unless something has changed, this is how I have had to use one antenna for both the SL-30 and the GNS-430.

Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694

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* Given a SL30 / GNS 430 WAAS combo, I expect that I will need a TRIPLEXER
to split a single NAV signal into a NAV/GS for the 4030 and a NAV signal for
the SL30 (which I understand has an internal splitter). Is this correct.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:08 am    Post subject: Sold on whiskers - Redux Reply with quote

I think I heard the new 650 has single hookup like the SL30. You sure
wouldn't want to be hooking up any obsolete stuff in that new
airplane. Wink)

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
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 Hi

After reading this thread, I thought I would revisit my antenna decisions.
Although I have a Bob Archer (uninstalled) antenna, I think the "sold on
whiskers" thread makes this to be a less than optimal antenna choice.

So my questions are:

* Given a SL30 / GNS 430 WAAS combo, I expect that I will need a TRIPLEXER
to split a single NAV signal into a NAV/GS for the 4030 and a NAV signal for
the SL30 (which I understand has an internal splitter). Is this correct.

* Is there any difference, other than cost, to the RA Allen and Comant VOR /
LOC / GS antennas. One is $130 and the other $290 ($CDN).

Inquiring minds need to know....

Cheers

Les


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:22 am    Post subject: Sold on whiskers - Redux Reply with quote

Not obsolete, just not the newest stuff out there.

do not archive

Jesse Saint
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F: 815-377-3694

On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:

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I think I heard the new 650 has single hookup like the SL30. You sure
wouldn't want to be hooking up any obsolete stuff in that new
airplane. Wink)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:46 am    Post subject: Sold on whiskers - Redux Reply with quote

Hi Jessie

Thanks for the info. By any chance would this be what you are referring to
(as a signal splitter so I can use use two radios off one antenna)?
http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/avpages/comantsplitter5120.php

I already have the GNS430 slitter to split the antenna signal into the the
two 430 inputs.

Regards

Les

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:16 am    Post subject: Sold on whiskers - Redux Reply with quote

From antenna to a Garmin 013-00112-00
(http://www.avionicsmall.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8183)
with one output direct to the SL-30 and the other into a Comant CI-507
diplexer (http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/coupler507.php)
to feed the 430.

-Sean

On 7/2/11 8:43 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
[quote]

Hi Jessie

Thanks for the info. By any chance would this be what you are referring to
(as a signal splitter so I can use use two radios off one antenna)?
http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/avpages/comantsplitter5120.php

I already have the GNS430 slitter to split the antenna signal into the the
two 430 inputs.

Regards

Les

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: Sold on whiskers - Redux Reply with quote

Kelly

Its not obsolete (like us!). It's a classic.

Cheers

Les

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-07-02, at 7:05 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


I think I heard the new 650 has single hookup like the SL30. You sure
wouldn't want to be hooking up any obsolete stuff in that new
airplane. Wink)

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> After reading this thread, I thought I would revisit my antenna decisions.
> Although I have a Bob Archer (uninstalled) antenna, I think the "sold on
> whiskers" thread makes this to be a less than optimal antenna choice.
>
> So my questions are:
>
> * Given a SL30 / GNS 430 WAAS combo, I expect that I will need a TRIPLEXER
> to split a single NAV signal into a NAV/GS for the 4030 and a NAV signal for
> the SL30 (which I understand has an internal splitter). Is this correct.
>
> * Is there any difference, other than cost, to the RA Allen and Comant VOR /
> LOC / GS antennas. One is $130 and the other $290 ($CDN).
>
> Inquiring minds need to know....
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
>
>







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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:42 am    Post subject: Sold on whiskers - Redux Reply with quote

Figured I could get a rise.....with all these folks installing bleeding
edge avionics. I assume you are putting in a trusty ADF or two to
navigate around your fine country? I was just looking at the route along
the AlCan Highway and I don't recall it being a dashed line in the past,
and I didn't see VHF airways that I recall being their in the past.
On 7/2/2011 7:55 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
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Kelly

Its not obsolete (like us!). It's a classic.

Cheers

Les

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-07-02, at 7:05 AM, Kelly McMullen<apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I think I heard the new 650 has single hookup like the SL30. You sure
> wouldn't want to be hooking up any obsolete stuff in that new
> airplane. Wink)
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Les Kearney<kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> After reading this thread, I thought I would revisit my antenna decisions.
>> Although I have a Bob Archer (uninstalled) antenna, I think the "sold on
>> whiskers" thread makes this to be a less than optimal antenna choice.
>>
>> So my questions are:
>>
>> * Given a SL30 / GNS 430 WAAS combo, I expect that I will need a TRIPLEXER
>> to split a single NAV signal into a NAV/GS for the 4030 and a NAV signal for
>> the SL30 (which I understand has an internal splitter). Is this correct.
>>
>> * Is there any difference, other than cost, to the RA Allen and Comant VOR /
>> LOC / GS antennas. One is $130 and the other $290 ($CDN).
>>
>> Inquiring minds need to know....
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>




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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:28 am    Post subject: Sold on whiskers - Redux Reply with quote

The picture doesn't look what I used, but the description sounds like exactly what you would need.

Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694

On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Les Kearney wrote:

[quote]

Hi Jessie

Thanks for the info. By any chance would this be what you are referring to
(as a signal splitter so I can use use two radios off one antenna)?
http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/avpages/comantsplitter5120.php

I already have the GNS430 slitter to split the antenna signal into the the
two 430 inputs.

Regards

Les

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