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rickofudall
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Location: Udall, KS, USA
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 Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:17 pm Post subject: A little better day at Black Rock |
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My wife, Lou, and I just took the wings off Zulu Delta and I cut away come fabric from the fuselage to get a better idea of the damage. Not as bad as I first thought. Not good, but better than I expected.For Newbie and other lurkers. I didn't take close ups of each weld cluster, but not a single one failed. Where ever there was a separation it was because the tube ripped, not the welding. I hit pretty hard but I walked away without even a bruise. The truss structure absorbed the hit and left me unscathed. I am glad I was flying from the right seat, though. I don't think one of the tinker toy aluminum tube and pop rivet aircraft could have protected me like this.
If you're out there Homer, I owe you a very big thanks.
Rick Girard
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David d.
Joined: 04 Jul 2011
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Location: Fitzgerald Ga.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: A little better day at Black Rock |
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Greetings Rick,
So glad that you walked away. It goes without say that any landing that you walk away from is a good landing. Paralyzed for life would not be a good thing.
The Bad day at black rock, I remember the movie. That old saying caught on sort of like "Murphy is alway looking over your shoulder". But thank goodness for a good outcome.
You sort of answered my question about having the stick in the center. In a time of quick decision, the stick was right there and you did not have to compensate for it being off to the side.
David d. (newbie)
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John Hauck
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: A little better day at Black Rock |
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You sort of answered my question about having the stick in the center. In a
time of quick decision, the stick was right there and you did not have to
compensate for it being off to the side.
David d. (newbie)
I haven't found I have had to compensate for stick location in a Kolb,
whether it be in the center or between my legs.
No matter what the stick's location in a Kolb, it is always there because
the pilot has to keep his hand on the stick almost all the time the Kolb is
in the air.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Richard Pike
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: A little better day at Black Rock |
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| SS568 wrote: | Greetings Rick,
You sort of answered my question about having the stick in the center. In a time of quick decision, the stick was right there and you did not have to compensate for it being off to the side.
David d. (newbie) |
You are imagining a non-existent problem. Some of us have a bunch of time flying these things, and if it was a problem, we would tell you, because we would have already taken steps to fix it, and what we fix, we talk about. That's what we do, that's what the Kolb list is all about.
Search the archives and see if you can find anybody unhappy with the stick location for the reasons you envisage-I don't think you will.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Dana
Joined: 13 Dec 2007
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Location: Connecticut, USA
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:17 am Post subject: A little better day at Black Rock |
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At 07:37 PM 7/5/2011, SS568 wrote:
| Quote: | | You sort of answered my question about having the stick in the center. In a time of quick decision, the stick was right there and you did not have to compensate for it being off to the side. |
David, there's nothing to "compensate" for. Many aircraft, including modern fighters, have side sticks. Some pilots prefer it to a center stick, some do not, just as some prefer a stick vs. a control wheel (yoke). The only real advantage to a center stick is the ability to fly with either hand if you need the other hand to do something (e.g. tuning radios, etc.). During normal flying, you don't even notice where it is.
-Dana
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Mike Welch
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:24 am Post subject: A little better day at Black Rock |
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Rick,
The ELT locator radio is one of the last things I need install, and I noticed
yours in your photos. I haven't decided on a final location, but at the moment
I'm leaning toward the "under the passenger seat" position.
By any chance, did you notice if your ELT beacon went off? Do you now have to
report your accident to the FAA? What about logbook entries for the repairs/etc?
I'm curious because I don't know how an "experimental" plane handles things like this.
I've got a pretty good idea about certified planes and accidents, just not in this case.
Mike Welch
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Mike Welch
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:02 am Post subject: A little better day at Black Rock |
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Sounds like a plan!! Your secret is safe with us. : )
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 07:33:49 -0500
Subject: Re: A little better day at Black Rock
From: aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Except for the Kolb list, I'm not telling anybody anything. I have a local offer of a kit for less than the price of a fuselage truss from the factory. If that works out, I'll build it and store the wreckage for this winter. No, I never turn the ELT on. It's there to be legal, nothing else. If I were flying cross country, I'd turn it on, but in the pattern there's no point. Besides, it's a 121.5 unit and they're not monitored anyway. Maybe I'll elect to install a 406 Mhz unit someday, but the price is going to have to come down by 70% before I do.
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Rick,
The ELT locator radio is one of the last things I need install, and I noticed
yours in your photos. I haven't decided on a final location, but at the moment
I'm leaning toward the "under the passenger seat" position.
By any chance, did you notice if your ELT beacon went off? Do you now have to
report your accident to the FAA? What about logbook entries for the repairs/etc?
I'm curious because I don't know how an "experimental" plane handles things like this.
I've got a pretty good idea about certified planes and accidents, just not in this case.
Mike Welch
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:52 am Post subject: A little better day at Black Rock |
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Dana wrote
the only real advantage to a center stick is the ability to fly with either hand if you need the other hand to do something (e.g. tuning radios, etc.). During normal flying, you don't even notice where it is.
-Dana
to help with the either hand bit i built my stick, center mounted mkiii stock design, to something i can use with either hand by extending the top of the stick to the left, kind of looks like the number "7" the top left part can be reached with my left hand very easily to give my right arm a rest during a long flight.
boyd young
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