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robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:33 pm Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

It’s past time for me to be considering O2 for my 8A. I have an integrated system in my -10 which was the right call for that plane but I don’t see the need for a permanently fixed bottle on the 8A for my mission. I can see a removable bottle or even just a bottle & padded pouch to place in the cockpit for occasional X-Country use and no hard mounting of O2 pick up locations. Does anyone have a suggestions / photos of the systems they use? I am looking for practical solutions, not full blown O2 system in the forward baggage & routed hard lines.  

 

Thanks, 

Robin

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n8zg(at)mediacombb.net
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:45 am Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

Robin – 

 

There are many minor differences among the various vendors – bottle size and shape, valve configuration, regulator configuration, and delivery / metering scheme.  All that makes it difficult to compare one with the others.  I bought a SkyOx system, then added a few parts from Mountain High.

 

1 - Out of the box, one needs a wrench to attach the SkyOx regulator to the bottle.  During a rental pre-flight, before daylight, long before the FBO opens (no tools available) is not the time to find the coupler nut loose.  I ordered a hand nut and a stem with an O-ring from Mountain High to replace the stock SkyOx coupler – no tools required to mount the regulator to the bottle.

 

 2 – The regulators and gauges that come with most kits are not the most efficient delivery systems.  Mountain High offers a precise flow meter that can be added to any system.  It will help you get the most mileage per fill.

 

 Neal

 

From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks





It’s past time for me to be considering O2 for my 8A. I have an integrated system in my -10 which was the right call for that plane but I don’t see the need for a permanently fixed bottle on the 8A for my mission. I can see a removable bottle or even just a bottle & padded pouch to place in the cockpit for occasional X-Country use and no hard mounting of O2 pick up locations. Does anyone have a suggestions / photos of the systems they use? I am looking for practical solutions, not full blown O2 system in the forward baggage & routed hard lines. 

 

Thanks,

Robin

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Speedy11(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

Robin,

 I have climbed my 8A to FL240 using a borrowed O2 bottle and mask.   The unit worked perfectly.  It was easy to set the desired Oxy flow.   I've been in the USAF altitude chamber a number of times and I know my hypoxia  symptoms perfectly and I had no indication of hypoxia.  I test  flew the bottle to 17.5k feet before going higher so as to make sure I knew  how to use it and insure proper operation.

 I can't recall the brand name offhand, but I will find out which one it was  and give you a pirep on it.  Should I buy one, it is the one I will  buy.

 Personally, I would not install a permanent O2 system in a RV.  That  would mean carrying around the weight for the life of the airplane.  RVs  tend to get overweight anyway, so flying around with something that might me  used a time or two per year is, for me, not worthwhile.

 The issue with a portable bottle is finding a place to store and secure it  for the flight.  If you're solo, then the solution is relatively  simple.  I put it alongside my seat with a SS hose clamp to hold it to the  sidewall.  A better means of attachment could easily be installed with  several hose clamps attached to nutplates on the sidewall.  With a  passenger, the problem is more complicated.  You need access to the top of  the bottle to adjust the O2 flow, so storing it away in a baggage compartment is  not feasible.  I've seen some "backpack" type harnesses the hand on the  back of the front seat, but there are issues with that also - you have to depend  of the passenger to adjust the O2 and the rear stick would have to be removed to  avoid any possibility of jamming against the bottle.

 Of course the 6, 7, and 9 can put it behind the seat and reach over for  adjustments.

 Stan Sutterfield

  

  In a message dated 7/10/2011 3:11:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  rv8-list(at)matronics.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  It=92s    past time for me to be considering O2 for my 8A. I have an    integrate

d

system in my -10 which was the right call for that plane but    I don=92t see 

the

need for a permanently fixed bottle on the 8A for my    mission. I can see a

removable bottle or even just a bottle & padded    pouch to place in the

cockpit for occasional X-Country use and no hard    mounting of O2 pick up

locations. Does anyone have a suggestions / photos    of the systems they use?

I am looking for practical solutions, not full    blown O2 system in the

forward baggage & routed hard    lines.

Thanks,



Robin

	


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rick.mcbride(at)me.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:06 am Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

Robin,



I permanently installed an O2 system in my -8 but I agree with Stan that it's not desirable nor necessary.  I wouldn't do it again.  What a couple of my friends have done that works very well is to install a temporary mount directly behind the passenger seat to mount the tank perpendicular to the longitudinal axis of the airplane.  They used a tank top mounted regulator.  You can easily and quickly mount the tank in you anticipate needing O2.  From there they permanently ran the low pressure hose from the baggage compartment to hard mounted receptacles for the pilot and passenger.  Before a flight where you anticipate use of the oxygen, simply turn on the flow at the regulator.  At least with our Mountain High Systems there is no need to adjust at the regulator in flight.  The adjustment is made on the flow meter attached to the cannula line.  You won't see any loss of oxygen due at the receptacles.  When you're ready to use, simply install the cannulas.  When you're done, just remove the cannula line and the system seals back up.  At the end of the flight just turn off the flow at the regulator.  It's also nice that you can easily remove the tank for refill.  Another option I use is a pulse-demand unit.  You would then only need to mount one receptacle.  Although a pulse-demand unit is pricey they work well and greatly extend the capacity of the O2 tank.  They are available from Mountain High Oxygen.

Rick McBride



On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:38 AM, Speedy11(at)aol.com (Speedy11(at)aol.com) wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		    Robin,

 I have climbed my 8A to FL240 using a borrowed O2 bottle and mask.   The unit worked perfectly.  It was easy to set the desired Oxy flow.   I've been in the USAF altitude chamber a number of times and I know my hypoxia  symptoms perfectly and I had no indication of hypoxia.  I test  flew the bottle to 17.5k feet before going higher so as to make sure I knew  how to use it and insure proper operation.

 I can't recall the brand name offhand, but I will find out which one it was  and give you a pirep on it.  Should I buy one, it is the one I will  buy.

 Personally, I would not install a permanent O2 system in a RV.  That  would mean carrying around the weight for the life of the airplane.  RVs  tend to get overweight anyway, so flying around with something that might me  used a time or two per year is, for me, not worthwhile.

 The issue with a portable bottle is finding a place to store and secure it  for the flight.  If you're solo, then the solution is relatively  simple.  I put it alongside my seat with a SS hose clamp to hold it to the  sidewall.  A better means of attachment could easily be installed with  several hose clamps attached to nutplates on the sidewall.  With a  passenger, the problem is more complicated.  You need access to the top of  the bottle to adjust the O2 flow, so storing it away in a baggage compartment is  not feasible.  I've seen some "backpack" type harnesses the hand on the  back of the front seat, but there are issues with that also - you have to depend  of the passenger to adjust the O2 and the rear stick would have to be removed to  avoid any possibility of jamming against the bottle.

 Of course the 6, 7, and 9 can put it behind the seat and reach over for  adjustments.

 Stan Sutterfield

  

  In a message dated 7/10/2011 3:11:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  rv8-list(at)matronics.com (rv8-list(at)matronics.com) writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  It=92s    past time for me to be considering O2 for my 8A. I have an    integrate

d

system in my -10 which was the right call for that plane but    I don=92t see 

the

need for a permanently fixed bottle on the 8A for my    mission. I can see a

removable bottle or even just a bottle & padded    pouch to place in the

cockpit for occasional X-Country use and no hard    mounting of O2 pick up

locations. Does anyone have a suggestions / photos    of the systems they use?

I am looking for practical solutions, not full    blown O2 system in the

forward baggage & routed hard    lines.

Thanks,



Robin

	


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robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:45 am Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

Good tips, Thanks Rick.I have an Aerox system in my -10 but I am hearing good things about the Mountain High system. I will hopefully be checking them out at OSH.

Robin 



 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Richard McBride <rick.mcbride(at)me.com (rick.mcbride(at)me.com)> wrote:

[quote] Robin,



I permanently installed an O2 system in my -8 but I agree with Stan that it's not desirable nor necessary.  I wouldn't do it again.  What a couple of my friends have done that works very well is to install a temporary mount directly behind the passenger seat to mount the tank perpendicular to the longitudinal axis of the airplane.  They used a tank top mounted regulator.  You can easily and quickly mount the tank in you anticipate needing O2.  From there they permanently ran the low pressure hose from the baggage compartment to hard mounted receptacles for the pilot and passenger.  Before a flight where you anticipate use of the oxygen, simply turn on the flow at the regulator.  At least with our Mountain High Systems there is no need to adjust at the regulator in flight.  The adjustment is made on the flow meter attached to the cannula line.  You won't see any loss of oxygen due at the receptacles.  When you're ready to use, simply install the cannulas.  When you're done, just remove the cannula line and the system seals back up.  At the end of the flight just turn off the flow at the regulator.  It's also nice that you can easily remove the tank for refill.  Another option I use is a pulse-demand unit.  You would then only need to mount one receptacle.  Although a pulse-demand unit is pricey they work well and greatly extend the capacity of the O2 tank.  They are available from Mountain High Oxygen.

 



Rick McBride



On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:38 AM, Speedy11(at)aol.com (Speedy11(at)aol.com) wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		     Robin,

 I have climbed my 8A to FL240 using a borrowed O2 bottle and mask.   The unit worked perfectly.  It was easy to set the desired Oxy flow.   I've been in the USAF altitude chamber a number of times and I know my hypoxia  symptoms perfectly and I had no indication of hypoxia.  I test  flew the bottle to 17.5k feet before going higher so as to make sure I knew  how to use it and insure proper operation.

 I can't recall the brand name offhand, but I will find out which one it was  and give you a pirep on it.  Should I buy one, it is the one I will  buy.

 Personally, I would not install a permanent O2 system in a RV.  That  would mean carrying around the weight for the life of the airplane.  RVs  tend to get overweight anyway, so flying around with something that might me  used a time or two per year is, for me, not worthwhile.

 The issue with a portable bottle is finding a place to store and secure it  for the flight.  If you're solo, then the solution is relatively  simple.  I put it alongside my seat with a SS hose clamp to hold it to the  sidewall.  A better means of attachment could easily be installed with  several hose clamps attached to nutplates on the sidewall.  With a  passenger, the problem is more complicated.  You need access to the top of  the bottle to adjust the O2 flow, so storing it away in a baggage compartment is  not feasible.  I've seen some "backpack" type harnesses the hand on the  back of the front seat, but there are issues with that also - you have to depend  of the passenger to adjust the O2 and the rear stick would have to be removed to  avoid any possibility of jamming against the bottle.

 Of course the 6, 7, and 9 can put it behind the seat and reach over for  adjustments.

 Stan Sutterfield

  

  In a message dated 7/10/2011 3:11:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  rv8-list(at)matronics.com (rv8-list(at)matronics.com) writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  It=92s    past time for me to be considering O2 for my 8A. I have an    integrate

d

system in my -10 which was the right call for that plane but    I don=92t see 

the

need for a permanently fixed bottle on the 8A for my    mission. I can see a

removable bottle or even just a bottle & padded    pouch to place in the

cockpit for occasional X-Country use and no hard    mounting of O2 pick up

locations. Does anyone have a suggestions / photos    of the systems they use?

I am looking for practical solutions, not full    blown O2 system in the

forward baggage & routed hard    lines.

Thanks,



Robin

	


  

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rick.mcbride(at)me.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:01 am Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

Robin,

If you want to see the setup I described, two of the airplanes will be at OSH Sunday through Thursday.  Just let me know.



Rick



On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com (robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com)> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  Good tips, Thanks Rick.I have an Aerox system in my -10 but I am hearing good things about the Mountain High system. I will hopefully be checking them out at OSH.

Robin 



 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Richard McBride <[url=mailto:rick.mcbride(at)me.com]rick.mcbride(at)me.com (rick.mcbride(at)me.com)[/url]> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Robin,



I permanently installed an O2 system in my -8 but I agree with Stan that it's not desirable nor necessary.  I wouldn't do it again.  What a couple of my friends have done that works very well is to install a temporary mount directly behind the passenger seat to mount the tank perpendicular to the longitudinal axis of the airplane.  They used a tank top mounted regulator.  You can easily and quickly mount the tank in you anticipate needing O2.  From there they permanently ran the low pressure hose from the baggage compartment to hard mounted receptacles for the pilot and passenger.  Before a flight where you anticipate use of the oxygen, simply turn on the flow at the regulator.  At least with our Mountain High Systems there is no need to adjust at the regulator in flight.  The adjustment is made on the flow meter attached to the cannula line.  You won't see any loss of oxygen due at the receptacles.  When you're ready to use, simply install the cannulas.  When you're done, just remove the cannula line and the system seals back up.  At the end of the flight just turn off the flow at the regulator.  It's also nice that you can easily remove the tank for refill.  Another option I use is a pulse-demand unit.  You would then only need to mount one receptacle.  Although a pulse-demand unit is pricey they work well and greatly extend the capacity of the O2 tank.  They are available from Mountain High Oxygen.

 



Rick McBride



On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:38 AM, [url=mailto:Speedy11(at)aol.com]Speedy11(at)aol.com (Speedy11(at)aol.com)[/url] wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		     Robin,

 I have climbed my 8A to FL240 using a borrowed O2 bottle and mask.   The unit worked perfectly.  It was easy to set the desired Oxy flow.   I've been in the USAF altitude chamber a number of times and I know my hypoxia  symptoms perfectly and I had no indication of hypoxia.  I test  flew the bottle to 17.5k feet before going higher so as to make sure I knew  how to use it and insure proper operation.

 I can't recall the brand name offhand, but I will find out which one it was  and give you a pirep on it.  Should I buy one, it is the one I will  buy.

 Personally, I would not install a permanent O2 system in a RV.  That  would mean carrying around the weight for the life of the airplane.  RVs  tend to get overweight anyway, so flying around with something that might me  used a time or two per year is, for me, not worthwhile.

 The issue with a portable bottle is finding a place to store and secure it  for the flight.  If you're solo, then the solution is relatively  simple.  I put it alongside my seat with a SS hose clamp to hold it to the  sidewall.  A better means of attachment could easily be installed with  several hose clamps attached to nutplates on the sidewall.  With a  passenger, the problem is more complicated.  You need access to the top of  the bottle to adjust the O2 flow, so storing it away in a baggage compartment is  not feasible.  I've seen some "backpack" type harnesses the hand on the  back of the front seat, but there are issues with that also - you have to depend  of the passenger to adjust the O2 and the rear stick would have to be removed to  avoid any possibility of jamming against the bottle.

 Of course the 6, 7, and 9 can put it behind the seat and reach over for  adjustments.

 Stan Sutterfield

  

  In a message dated 7/10/2011 3:11:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  [url=mailto:rv8-list(at)matronics.com]rv8-list(at)matronics.com (rv8-list(at)matronics.com)[/url] writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  It=92s    past time for me to be considering O2 for my 8A. I have an    integrate

d

system in my -10 which was the right call for that plane but    I don=92t see 

the

need for a permanently fixed bottle on the 8A for my    mission. I can see a

removable bottle or even just a bottle & padded    pouch to place in the

cockpit for occasional X-Country use and no hard    mounting of O2 pick up

locations. Does anyone have a suggestions / photos    of the systems they use?

I am looking for practical solutions, not full    blown O2 system in the

forward baggage & routed hard    lines.

Thanks,



Robin

	


  

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rick.mcbride(at)me.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:26 am Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

My cell is 703-599-7804.  We'll be arriving Sunday morning and departing Thursday morning.  Call anytime.



Rick McBride



On Jul 12, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com (robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com)> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  I definitely do want to see the setup. I will touch base if/when I get to OSH this year.



Thanks,

Robin



On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Richard McBride <[url=mailto:rick.mcbride(at)me.com]rick.mcbride(at)me.com (rick.mcbride(at)me.com)[/url]> wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Robin,

If you want to see the setup I described, two of the airplanes will be at OSH Sunday through Thursday.  Just let me know.

 

Rick

On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Robin Marks <[url=mailto:robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com]robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com (robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com)[/url]> wrote:





 

 	  Quote: 	
		  

Good tips, Thanks Rick.I have an Aerox system in my -10 but I am hearing good things about the Mountain High system. I will hopefully be checking them out at OSH.

 



Robin 



 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Richard McBride < (rick.mcbride(at)me.com)[url=mailto:rick.mcbride(at)me.com]rick.mcbride(at)me.com (rick.mcbride(at)me.com)[/url]> wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		   Robin,



I permanently installed an O2 system in my -8 but I agree with Stan that it's not desirable nor necessary.  I wouldn't do it again.  What a couple of my friends have done that works very well is to install a temporary mount directly behind the passenger seat to mount the tank perpendicular to the longitudinal axis of the airplane.  They used a tank top mounted regulator.  You can easily and quickly mount the tank in you anticipate needing O2.  From there they permanently ran the low pressure hose from the baggage compartment to hard mounted receptacles for the pilot and passenger.  Before a flight where you anticipate use of the oxygen, simply turn on the flow at the regulator.  At least with our Mountain High Systems there is no need to adjust at the regulator in flight.  The adjustment is made on the flow meter attached to the cannula line.  You won't see any loss of oxygen due at the receptacles.  When you're ready to use, simply install the cannulas.  When you're done, just remove the cannula line and the system seals back up.  At the end of the flight just turn off the flow at the regulator.  It's also nice that you can easily remove the tank for refill.  Another option I use is a pulse-demand unit.  You would then only need to mount one receptacle.  Although a pulse-demand unit is pricey they work well and greatly extend the capacity of the O2 tank.  They are available from Mountain High Oxygen.

  



Rick McBride



On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:38 AM,  (Speedy11(at)aol.com)[url=mailto:Speedy11(at)aol.com]Speedy11(at)aol.com (Speedy11(at)aol.com)[/url] wrote:

 



 	  Quote: 	
		     Robin,

 I have climbed my 8A to FL240 using a borrowed O2 bottle and mask.   The unit worked perfectly.  It was easy to set the desired Oxy flow.   I've been in the USAF altitude chamber a number of times and I know my hypoxia  symptoms perfectly and I had no indication of hypoxia.  I test  flew the bottle to 17.5k feet before going higher so as to make sure I knew  how to use it and insure proper operation.

 I can't recall the brand name offhand, but I will find out which one it was  and give you a pirep on it.  Should I buy one, it is the one I will  buy.

 Personally, I would not install a permanent O2 system in a RV.  That  would mean carrying around the weight for the life of the airplane.  RVs  tend to get overweight anyway, so flying around with something that might me  used a time or two per year is, for me, not worthwhile.

 The issue with a portable bottle is finding a place to store and secure it  for the flight.  If you're solo, then the solution is relatively  simple.  I put it alongside my seat with a SS hose clamp to hold it to the  sidewall.  A better means of attachment could easily be installed with  several hose clamps attached to nutplates on the sidewall.  With a  passenger, the problem is more complicated.  You need access to the top of  the bottle to adjust the O2 flow, so storing it away in a baggage compartment is  not feasible.  I've seen some "backpack" type harnesses the hand on the  back of the front seat, but there are issues with that also - you have to depend  of the passenger to adjust the O2 and the rear stick would have to be removed to  avoid any possibility of jamming against the bottle.

 Of course the 6, 7, and 9 can put it behind the seat and reach over for  adjustments.

 Stan Sutterfield

  

  In a message dated 7/10/2011 3:11:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,   (rv8-list(at)matronics.com)[url=mailto:rv8-list(at)matronics.com]rv8-list(at)matronics.com (rv8-list(at)matronics.com)[/url] writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  It=92s    past time for me to be considering O2 for my 8A. I have an    integrate

d

system in my -10 which was the right call for that plane but    I don=92t see 

the

need for a permanently fixed bottle on the 8A for my    mission. I can see a

removable bottle or even just a bottle & padded    pouch to place in the

cockpit for occasional X-Country use and no hard    mounting of O2 pick up

locations. Does anyone have a suggestions / photos    of the systems they use?

I am looking for practical solutions, not full    blown O2 system in the

forward baggage & routed hard    lines.

Thanks,



Robin

	


  

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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:37 am Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

Hey Robin - 



I've been using the Mountain High O2D2 system in my 8 for big trips, and it has performed very well.  I bought a 623L composite cylinder that's rated to 3000 psi, but nobody seems to be able to fill it higher than 2000psi.  I put the Mountain High unit next to my right elbow in the cockpit with some duallock tape (holds up really well, kind of like velcro but tougher and more mechanical) so I can pull it out when not in use.  I secure the bottle in a perfect sized tool box in the rear baggage area, and the box is held tight with tiedowns that I have back there.  I drilled a hole in the toolbox for the oxygen tube, and it runs out of the baggage area through a tooling hole in the bulkhead, then secured along it's length under the canopy sill til it reaches the unit.  Operation only requires that you turn the bottle on before you go, and if I'm using the oxygen, I'm definitely traveling, so as I'm packing up the baggage area I turn the bottle on, then secure it, then finish packing.  Haven't forgotten to turn it on or off yet!  Operation is simple, as it measures the cabin altitude and supplies the appropriate amount of oxygen, which you can manually increase if desired.  I use a little pulse oxymeter on my finger to check O2 levels during flight.  Works great.  On my first trip with my girlfriend, I had to boost the level of oxygen manually in an attempt to get her O2 levels up, until I figured out that she tends to breathe through her mouth...  Turned around and looked at her while she was snoozing on a leg and there was the answer!  Subsequent flights were totally fine.  With two of us using oxygen for most of the flight, we seem to get about 15 hours of O2 from the system.  Worked great in april when we flew to the Bahamas and back in the 8!  Getting ready for a trip next week that'll go Tahoe, Vail CO, then on to AZ and back home.  Time to fill the bottle!  The Mountain High system was a bit pricey, but it effectively saves oxygen on trips so you don't have to find a place to get the bottle filled whi!

 le you'r

e traveling.  Anyway, just my experience.



cj

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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:02 pm Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

Chris,Is this the Chris with the -10 in So Cal? I recall you were very far along but then I didn't see you active on the list any more. I remember your total entertainment center on the -10. Plus your SJ cowl. Are you still building the -10? Did it ever first flight?

 If you have extra dual lock you can secure your girlfriend's mouth to save on O2? Just an idea... I use Dual Lock on one of my products so I have tons available to me.  

I get free O2 at my FBO but they also seem to be limited to 2,000 psi (at most). Thanks for the bottle sizing, I will definitely check that out at OSH.

 



Thanks for the tips,

Robin



On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Chris Johnston <CJohnston(at)popsound.com (CJohnston(at)popsound.com)> wrote:

 [quote]--> RV8-List message posted by: Chris Johnston <CJohnston(at)popsound.com (CJohnston(at)popsound.com)>

  

 Hey Robin -

 

 I've been using the Mountain High O2D2 system in my 8 for big trips, and it has performed very well.  I bought a 623L composite cylinder that's rated to 3000 psi, but nobody seems to be able to fill it higher than 2000psi.  I put the Mountain High unit next to my right elbow in the cockpit with some duallock tape (holds up really well, kind of like velcro but tougher and more mechanical) so I can pull it out when not in use.  I secure the bottle in a perfect sized tool box in the rear baggage area, and the box is held tight with tiedowns that I have back there.  I drilled a hole in the toolbox for the oxygen tube, and it runs out of the baggage area through a tooling hole in the bulkhead, then secured along it's length under the canopy sill til it reaches the unit.  Operation only requires that you turn the bottle on before you go, and if I'm using the oxygen, I'm definitely traveling, so as I'm packing up the baggage area I turn the bottle on, then secure it, then finish pa!

   cking.  Haven't forgotten to turn it on or off yet!  Operation is simple, as it measures the cabin altitude and supplies the appropriate amount of oxygen, which you can manually increase if desired.  I use a little pulse oxymeter on my finger to check O2 levels during flight.  Works great.  On my first trip with my girlfriend, I had to boost the level of oxygen manually in an attempt to get her O2 levels up, until I figured out that she tends to breathe through her mouth...  Turned around and looked at her while she was snoozing on a leg and there was the answer!  Subsequent flights were totally fine.  With two of us using oxygen for most of the flight, we seem to get about 15 hours of O2 from the system.  Worked great in april when we flew to the Bahamas and back in the 8!  Getting ready for a trip next week that'll go Tahoe, Vail CO, then on to AZ and back home.  Time to fill the bottle!  The Mountain High system was a bit pricey, but it effectively saves oxygen on trips !

   so you don't have to find a place to get the bottle filled whi!

  le you'r

 e traveling.  Anyway, just my experience.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:35 pm Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

Ok, I just purchased the Mountain High 2 place portable system w/o the Pulse Demand accessory at this time. I can add later if I need. They offered the OSH discount and free shipping so I went for it. Thanks for everyone's input,

 Robin



On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Robin Marks <robin(at)painttheweb.com (robin(at)painttheweb.com)> wrote:

[quote] Chris,Is this the Chris with the -10 in So Cal? I recall you were very far along but then I didn't see you active on the list any more. I remember your total entertainment center on the -10. Plus your SJ cowl. Are you still building the -10? Did it ever first flight?

  If you have extra dual lock you can secure your girlfriend's mouth to save on O2? Just an idea... I use Dual Lock on one of my products so I have tons available to me.  

I get free O2 at my FBO but they also seem to be limited to 2,000 psi (at most). Thanks for the bottle sizing, I will definitely check that out at OSH.

  



Thanks for the tips,

Robin

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Chris Johnston <CJohnston(at)popsound.com (CJohnston(at)popsound.com)> wrote:

   	  Quote: 	
		  --> RV8-List message posted by: Chris Johnston <CJohnston(at)popsound.com (CJohnston(at)popsound.com)>

   

 Hey Robin -

 

 I've been using the Mountain High O2D2 system in my 8 for big trips, and it has performed very well.  I bought a 623L composite cylinder that's rated to 3000 psi, but nobody seems to be able to fill it higher than 2000psi.  I put the Mountain High unit next to my right elbow in the cockpit with some duallock tape (holds up really well, kind of like velcro but tougher and more mechanical) so I can pull it out when not in use.  I secure the bottle in a perfect sized tool box in the rear baggage area, and the box is held tight with tiedowns that I have back there.  I drilled a hole in the toolbox for the oxygen tube, and it runs out of the baggage area through a tooling hole in the bulkhead, then secured along it's length under the canopy sill til it reaches the unit.  Operation only requires that you turn the bottle on before you go, and if I'm using the oxygen, I'm definitely traveling, so as I'm packing up the baggage area I turn the bottle on, then secure it, then finish pa!

    cking.  Haven't forgotten to turn it on or off yet!  Operation is simple, as it measures the cabin altitude and supplies the appropriate amount of oxygen, which you can manually increase if desired.  I use a little pulse oxymeter on my finger to check O2 levels during flight.  Works great.  On my first trip with my girlfriend, I had to boost the level of oxygen manually in an attempt to get her O2 levels up, until I figured out that she tends to breathe through her mouth...  Turned around and looked at her while she was snoozing on a leg and there was the answer!  Subsequent flights were totally fine.  With two of us using oxygen for most of the flight, we seem to get about 15 hours of O2 from the system.  Worked great in april when we flew to the Bahamas and back in the 8!  Getting ready for a trip next week that'll go Tahoe, Vail CO, then on to AZ and back home.  Time to fill the bottle!  The Mountain High system was a bit pricey, but it effectively saves oxygen on trips !

    so you don't have to find a place to get the bottle filled whi!

  le you'r

 e traveling.  Anyway, just my experience.

 

 cj

 

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

Yup, that's me!  I'm still building the 10.  Getting there, but it's been an extremely busy couple of years at work which leaves minimal time for building.  And flying.  And skydiving, and a relationship!  I'm still plugging along on the 10, and it'll get done at some point.  I still monitor the lists, but there are smarter guys than me with all the answers!  The 10 is getting a panel re-design, which is funny since it didn't get all the way built yet, but I had the opportunity to pick up a GTN750, then that led to other stuff... You know how it goes.  Been flying the 8 all over the place though, and loving the heck out of it.  Maybe one of these days we can try to make a plan to meet up?  Be good to finally meet you!



cj

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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 1:00 PM

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Chris,

Is this the Chris with the -10 in So Cal? I recall you were very far along but then I didn't see you active on the list any more. I remember your total entertainment center on the -10. Plus your SJ cowl. Are you still building the -10? Did it ever first flight?

If you have extra dual lock you can secure your girlfriend's mouth to save on O2? Just an idea... I use Dual Lock on one of my products so I have tons available to me.

I get free O2 at my FBO but they also seem to be limited to 2,000 psi (at most). Thanks for the bottle sizing, I will definitely check that out at OSH.



Thanks for the tips,

Robin



On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Chris Johnston <CJohnston(at)popsound.com<mailto:CJohnston(at)popsound.com>> wrote:




Hey Robin -



I've been using the Mountain High O2D2 system in my 8 for big trips, and it has performed very well.  I bought a 623L composite cylinder that's rated to 3000 psi, but nobody seems to be able to fill it higher than 2000psi.  I put the Mountain High unit next to my right elbow in the cockpit with some duallock tape (holds up really well, kind of like velcro but tougher and more mechanical) so I can pull it out when not in use.  I secure the bottle in a perfect sized tool box in the rear baggage area, and the box is held tight with tiedowns that I have back there.  I drilled a hole in the toolbox for the oxygen tube, and it runs out of the baggage area through a tooling hole in the bulkhead, then secured along it's length under the canopy sill til it reaches the unit.  Operation only requires that you turn the bottle on before you go, and if I'm using the oxygen, I'm definitely traveling, so as I'm packing up the baggage area I turn the bottle on, then secure it, then finish pa!

 cking.  Haven't forgotten to turn it on or off yet!  Operation is simple, as it measures the cabin altitude and supplies the appropriate amount of oxygen, which you can manually increase if desired.  I use a little pulse oxymeter on my finger to check O2 levels during flight.  Works great.  On my first trip with my girlfriend, I had to boost the level of oxygen manually in an attempt to get her O2 levels up, until I figured out that she tends to breathe through her mouth...  Turned around and looked at her while she was snoozing on a leg and there was the answer!  Subsequent flights were totally fine.  With two of us using oxygen for most of the flight, we seem to get about 15 hours of O2 from the system.  Worked great in april when we flew to the Bahamas and back in the 8!  Getting ready for a trip next week that'll go Tahoe, Vail CO, then on to AZ and back home.  Time to fill the bottle!  The Mountain High system was a bit pricey, but it effectively saves oxygen on trips !

 so you don't have to find a place to get the bottle filled whi!

 le you'r

e traveling.  Anyway, just my experience.



cj

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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:56 pm Post subject: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

Well waiting on your panel was probably a good thing now that you have the 750 as a choice. That will be NICE! I have an 8A wrapping up Phase 1 and hope to do some formation training at some point. I think those are two nice planes to have in your stable. And yes one of these days we will have to get together. I am still partially based at WHP so we are just one class B violation away from seeing each other. We are also living in Atlanta & Northern CA right now so scheduling can be difficult but I will try to reach out in the fall to hook up.

 I am on my first leg of what I hope to be SBP > LA > AZ > TX > AR > GA > AR > OSH > AR > GA > AR > OK > AZ > LA > SBP. Oh... that looks like a lot of fuel. 

Thanks for the tips & enjoy Tahoe, CO, AZ. 

 Robin  



On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Chris Johnston <CJohnston(at)popsound.com (CJohnston(at)popsound.com)> wrote:

[quote] --> RV8-List message posted by: Chris Johnston <CJohnston(at)popsound.com (CJohnston(at)popsound.com)>

 

 

Yup, that's me!  I'm still building the 10.  Getting there, but it's been an extremely busy couple of years at work which leaves minimal time for building.  And flying.  And skydiving, and a relationship!  I'm still plugging along on the 10, and it'll get done at some point.  I still monitor the lists, but there are smarter guys than me with all the answers!  The 10 is getting a panel re-design, which is funny since it didn't get all the way built yet, but I had the opportunity to pick up a GTN750, then that led to other stuff... You know how it goes.  Been flying the 8 all over the place though, and loving the heck out of it.  Maybe one of these days we can try to make a plan to meet up?  Be good to finally meet you!

  

 cj

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 To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com (rv8-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Re: Re: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations

 

 Chris,

 Is this the Chris with the -10 in So Cal? I recall you were very far along but then I didn't see you active on the list any more. I remember your total entertainment center on the -10. Plus your SJ cowl. Are you still building the -10? Did it ever first flight?

  If you have extra dual lock you can secure your girlfriend's mouth to save on O2? Just an idea... I use Dual Lock on one of my products so I have tons available to me.

 I get free O2 at my FBO but they also seem to be limited to 2,000 psi (at most). Thanks for the bottle sizing, I will definitely check that out at OSH.

 

 Thanks for the tips,

 Robin

 

 

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Chris Johnston <CJohnston(at)popsound.com (CJohnston(at)popsound.com)<mailto:CJohnston(at)popsound.com (CJohnston(at)popsound.com)>> wrote:

  --> RV8-List message posted by: Chris Johnston <CJohnston(at)popsound.com (CJohnston(at)popsound.com)<mailto:CJohnston(at)popsound.com (CJohnston(at)popsound.com)>>

 

 Hey Robin -

 

 I've been using the Mountain High O2D2 system in my 8 for big trips, and it has performed very well.  I bought a 623L composite cylinder that's rated to 3000 psi, but nobody seems to be able to fill it higher than 2000psi.  I put the Mountain High unit next to my right elbow in the cockpit with some duallock tape (holds up really well, kind of like velcro but tougher and more mechanical) so I can pull it out when not in use.  I secure the bottle in a perfect sized tool box in the rear baggage area, and the box is held tight with tiedowns that I have back there.  I drilled a hole in the toolbox for the oxygen tube, and it runs out of the baggage area through a tooling hole in the bulkhead, then secured along it's length under the canopy sill til it reaches the unit.  Operation only requires that you turn the bottle on before you go, and if I'm using the oxygen, I'm definitely traveling, so as I'm packing up the baggage area I turn the bottle on, then secure it, then finish pa!

   cking.  Haven't forgotten to turn it on or off yet!  Operation is simple, as it measures the cabin altitude and supplies the appropriate amount of oxygen, which you can manually increase if desired.  I use a little pulse oxymeter on my finger to check O2 levels during flight.  Works great.  On my first trip with my girlfriend, I had to boost the level of oxygen manually in an attempt to get her O2 levels up, until I figured out that she tends to breathe through her mouth...  Turned around and looked at her while she was snoozing on a leg and there was the answer!  Subsequent flights were totally fine.  With two of us using oxygen for most of the flight, we seem to get about 15 hours of O2 from the system.  Worked great in april when we flew to the Bahamas and back in the 8!  Getting ready for a trip next week that'll go Tahoe, Vail CO, then on to AZ and back home.  Time to fill the bottle!  The Mountain High system was a bit pricey, but it effectively saves oxygen on trips !

   so you don't have to find a place to get the bottle filled whi!

  le you'r

 e traveling.  Anyway, just my experience.

 

 cj

 

 

 

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