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yakplt(at)yahoo.com
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 Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:33 am Post subject: NYT article explains problem with Yak List |
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What I got out of it is that I am ALWAYS right regardless of any form of reasonable debate to the contrary.
Yep, you nailed it.
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george(at)gesoco.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:43 am Post subject: NYT article explains problem with Yak List |
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Well guys this kind of BS on list has caused me to decide to leave the list again.
Bye bye
George Coy
CAS Ltd.
714 Airport Rd.
Swanton VT 05488
802-868-5633 off
802-363-5782 cell
802-868-4465 Fax
george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)
http://coyafct.com/
SKYPE george.coy
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:31 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: NYT article explains problem with Yak List
What I got out of it is that I am ALWAYS right regardless of any form of reasonable debate to the contrary.
Yep, you nailed it.
--- On Fri, 7/15/11, Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> wrote:
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yakplt(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:10 am Post subject: NYT article explains problem with Yak List |
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Sorry if that offended you George, it as meant as a joke. The article Brian referenced basically was saying that "reason" in and of itself was basically "invented" (per se) only to win debate and arguments. Therefore, even if someone made a reasonable and logical argument on ANY point, the other person could always just claim he was right anyway and that the logic and reason had zero bearing.
Which I personally think is somewhat ridiculous.
And yes... it is all B/S.
--- On Fri, 7/15/11, George Coy <george(at)gesoco.com> wrote:
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From: George Coy <george(at)gesoco.com>
Subject: RE: NYT article explains problem with Yak List
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 11:40 AM
Well guys this kind of BS on list has caused me to decide to leave the list again.
Bye bye
George Coy
CAS Ltd.
714 Airport Rd.
Swanton VT 05488
802-868-5633 off
802-363-5782 cell
802-868-4465 Fax
george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)
http://coyafct.com/
SKYPE george.coy
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:31 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: NYT article explains problem with Yak List
What I got out of it is that I am ALWAYS right regardless of any form of reasonable debate to the contrary.
Yep, you nailed it.
--- On Fri, 7/15/11, Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> wrote:
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brian(at)lloyd.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:18 am Post subject: NYT article explains problem with Yak List |
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 8:40 AM, George Coy <george(at)gesoco.com (george(at)gesoco.com)> wrote:
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Well guys this kind of BS on list has caused me to decide to leave the list again.
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Bye George. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone took everything seriously? Oh, wait, maybe it would be nice if no one took anything seriously. Hmm ...
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Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian(at)lloyd.com (brian(at)lloyd.com)
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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yakplt(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:43 am Post subject: NYT article explains problem with Yak List |
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Brian, regardless of who took what where and why, George Coy is one of the best when it comes to corporate knowledge of Russian aircraft. His helping others represents the pure purpose of the YAK List. If the B/S (of whatever kind) happened to have offended him, I personally am going to apologize if I was involved, because losing his participation is a very bad thing.
--- On Fri, 7/15/11, Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com> wrote:
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From: Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: NYT article explains problem with Yak List
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 12:16 PM
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 8:40 AM, George Coy <george(at)gesoco.com (george(at)gesoco.com)> wrote:
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Bye George. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone took everything seriously? Oh, wait, maybe it would be nice if no one took anything seriously. Hmm ...
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Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian(at)lloyd.com (brian(at)lloyd.com)
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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brian(at)lloyd.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:50 am Post subject: NYT article explains problem with Yak List |
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Yak Pilot <yakplt(at)yahoo.com (yakplt(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Brian, regardless of who took what where and why, George Coy is one of the best when it comes to corporate knowledge of Russian aircraft. His helping others represents the pure purpose of the YAK List. If the B/S (of whatever kind) happened to have offended him, I personally am going to apologize if I was involved, because losing his participation is a very bad thing.
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I know George is a skillful and knowledgeable person but storming off because I posted something that was regarding a meta-issue (about how this list works) seems silly to me.
Personally, I am pedantic. I am both literal and accurate to a fault, even when it a) doesn't matter, and b) is annoying. That is just my personality fault. And, at 57, I find that I care much less than I used to if this bothers people. Sorry.
But that posting does go a long way toward explaining things on this list. Every list has its own personality and I stamped this list with part of my personality way back when I started it. I used to bait Mike McCoy just for fun, to the annoyance (and occasional pleasure) of one and all. Of course, he did leave himself open by taking EVERYTHING seriously. That article went right to the heart of my own behavior and I know that there was more than one person on the list who was nodding and muttering, "yeah, that's Brian." 
So if George wants to stomp off, that is OK. It is his privilege. FWIW I am probably go to leave pretty soon too. I came back to see if anyone wants to purchase my project. And I can't seem to let platitudes go unchallenged. I realize that annoys people so I won't keep bugging you.
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Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian(at)lloyd.com (brian(at)lloyd.com)
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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cd001633(at)mindspring.co
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:18 pm Post subject: NYT article explains problem with Yak List |
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Hi George,
Myself, and I am sure many others, wish you didn't leave our List... After all, with the exception of the occasional (recently much) BS, this List is very valuable to all the 'Lister' with your input ranking way up there in valueand importance to all of us.
When BS/Crap comes up on the list, I make full use of the "Delete" button and just flush it...
Please consider staying and doing the same with any future List crap...
Sam Sax
Miami, FL
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cd001633(at)mindspring.co
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:43 pm Post subject: NYT article explains problem with Yak List |
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Mark,
FWIW,
In general, I believe it is very positive when people praise others for how good they are and what good they do as opposed to praise themselves.
I think your response below is very honorable and sensitive to George Coy and to his contribution to the List and to the YAK/CJ world at large – I appreciate it and I hope George will read it and re-join us on this List.
Sam Sax
Miami, FL
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:41 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: NYT article explains problem with Yak List
Brian, regardless of who took what where and why, George Coy is one of the best when it comes to corporate knowledge of Russian aircraft. His helping others represents the pure purpose of the YAK List. If the B/S (of whatever kind) happened to have offended him, I personally am going to apologize if I was involved, because losing his participation is a very bad thing.
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