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dj45

Joined: 25 Jul 2006
Posts: 92
Location: Jackson MI

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:22 am Post subject: Viking Engine

Anyone considering a Viking engine please be advised, I have had $4,300 deposit since Oct 28th and payment in full since May 8th and still haven't seen my engine yet. 

I called Jan today and he hung up on me and all I got after that was voice mail.

I don't think that I would be ordering an engine from him.

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Dan Stanton
N801S CH 801
N226BS CH701
N24DS CH750

mkejrj(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:13 am Post subject: Viking Engine

For what it's worth I ran into a similar problem with an engine supplier several years ago. If you received a written offer, via US mail, then you may be the victim of mail fraud. Contact the USPS.  The threat of legal action by the postal authorities was enough to get my money back. 

  

Good Luck, 

  

Dick Jordan 

RV 8A, N888BZ



 

   

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Anyone considering a Viking engine please be advised, I have had $4,300 deposit since Oct 28th and payment in full since May 8th and still haven't seen my engine yet. 

I called Jan today and he hung up on me and all I got after that was voice mail.

I don't think that I would be ordering an engine from him.



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Dan Stanton

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N226BS CH701





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rickofudall

Joined: 19 Sep 2009
Posts: 1392
Location: Udall, KS, USA

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: Viking Engine

Dan, May I have permission to repost this on the Kolb forum here on the Matronics lists?



Thanks,

Rick Girard



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 Anyone considering a Viking engine please be advised, I have had $4,300 deposit since Oct 28th and payment in full since May 8th and still haven't seen my engine yet.

 I called Jan today and he hung up on me and all I got after that was voice mail.

 I don't think that I would be ordering an engine from him.

 

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dj45

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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:12 am Post subject: Re: Viking Engine

Rick,

Fine by me, the more guys that know what they are getting into the better.

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Mike Welch

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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:59 am Post subject: Viking Engine

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		   Rick,

 Fine by me, the more guys that know what they are getting into the better.

 

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 Dan Stanton

 N801S CH 801

 N226BS CH701


	


Dan, Rick, members,



  With the way the economy has been lately, but sometimes during good times, too,

some disreputable company's go out of business, with the specific intent on stealing

buyers deposit money (and sometimes the buyer's entire payment in full), for a product

they never intended on delivering.



  How many times have we heard of "such and such " company closing it's doors,  but

 not without first taking dozens of poor, unsuspecting buyer's multi-thousand dollar deposits??

Way too often, if you ask me.   IMO, these thieves should be prosecuted, their assets taken,

and the buyer's deposits fully refunded.



  I am not making a direct comment toward Viking, I know NOTHING about the company itself,

but I will say that ANY company that requires payment in full MONTHS before you get your

product, is a LOSER company!!  I don't care whether you're building matchbooks or 777's,

payment in full before the product is delivered is prime for the unscrupulous owner of the 

business to just take the customer's $$$ and run!



  For me, if I were going to buy a fairly expensive item in the future, I would ONLY use an

"ESCROW company".  The seller either agrees to an escrow protected transaction, or they

don't get MY business!!  I've been screwed over very few times, and I darn sure intend on

keeping it that way.  My motto from now on is "Escrow way or no way!"



  Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.



Mike Welch

 		 	   		  

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:17 am Post subject: Viking Engine

Man, this seems reminiscent of another situation I heard

of a while back with a different engine company.  That

one was Eggenfellner Engines or something like that.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

do not archive

On 7/11/2011 7:55 AM, Mike Welch wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

  > Rick,

  > Fine by me, the more guys that know what they are getting into the

 better.

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  >

  > Dan Stanton

  > N801S CH 801

  > N226BS CH701

 Dan, Rick, members,

 With the way the economy has been lately, but sometimes during good

 times, too,

 some disreputable company's go out of business, with the specific intent

 on stealing

 buyers deposit money (and sometimes the buyer's entire payment in full),

 for a product

 they never intended on delivering.

 How many times have we heard of "such and such " company closing it's

 doors, but

 not without first taking dozens of poor, unsuspecting buyer's

 multi-thousand dollar deposits??

 Way too often, if you ask me. IMO, these thieves should be prosecuted,

 their assets taken,

 and the buyer's deposits fully refunded.

 _I am not making a direct comment toward Viking_, I know NOTHING about

 the company itself,

 but I will say that ANY company that requires payment in full MONTHS

 before you get your

 product, is a LOSER company!! I don't care whether you're building

 matchbooks or 777's,

 payment in full before the product is delivered is prime for the

 unscrupulous owner of the

 business to just take the customer's $$$ and run!

 For me, if I were going to buy a fairly expensive item in the future, I

 would ONLY use an

 "ESCROW company". The seller either agrees to an escrow protected

 transaction, or they

 don't get MY business!! I've been screwed over very few times, and I

 darn sure intend on

 keeping it that way. My motto from now on is "Escrow way or no way!"

 Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.

 Mike Welch

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Mike Welch

Joined: 13 Feb 2011
Posts: 272

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:37 am Post subject: Viking Engine

Tim,



  Interesting how Dan says he just off the phone with "Jan".  Like I said, I know

nothing about Viking engines, but I am familiar with "Jan Eggenfellner".  Maybe Jan

E. needed another 'bite at the customer's apple' for some more deposit money.



  If this is so, it's too bad.  It sure does look like a quality auto conversion engine, but

the product alone is never the whole enchilada....you have to have an honest business

that you're dealing with, too, or what Dan is experiencing is what you get.



Mike

[quote] 

 Man, this seems reminiscent of another situation I heard

 of a while back with a different engine company.  That

 one was Eggenfellner Engines or something like that.

 

 

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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 On 7/11/2011 7:55 AM, Mike Welch wrote:

 >

 >

 >  > Rick,

 >  > Fine by me, the more guys that know what they are getting into the

 > better.

 >  >

 >  > --------

 >  > Do not archive

 >  >

 >  > Dan Stanton

 >  > N801S CH 801

 >  > N226BS CH701

 >

 > Dan, Rick, members,

 >

 > With the way the economy has been lately, but sometimes during good

 > times, too,

 > some disreputable company's go out of business, with the specific intent

 > on stealing

 > buyers deposit money (and sometimes the buyer's entire payment in full),

 > for a product

 > they never intended on delivering.

 >

 > How many times have we heard of "such and such " company closing it's

 > doors, but

 > not without first taking dozens of poor, unsuspecting buyer's

 > multi-thousand dollar deposits??

 > Way too often, if you ask me. IMO, these thieves should be prosecuted,

 > their assets taken,

 > and the buyer's deposits fully refunded.

 >

 > _I am not making a direct comment toward Viking_, I know NOTHING about

 > the company itself,

 > but I will say that ANY company that requires payment in full MONTHS

 > before you get your

 > product, is a LOSER company!! I don't care whether you're building

 > matchbooks or 777's,

 > payment in full before the product is delivered is prime for the

 > unscrupulous owner of the

 > business to just take the customer's $$$ and run!

 >

 > For me, if I were going to buy a fairly expensive item in the future, I

 > would ONLY use an

 > "ESCROW company". The seller either agrees to an escrow protected

 > transaction, or they

 > don't get MY business!! I've been screwed over very few times, and I

 > darn sure intend on

 > keeping it that way. My motto from now on is "Escrow way or no way!"

 >

 > Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.

 >

 > Mike Welch

 >

 > *

 >

 >

nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:30 am Post subject: Viking Engine

These stories go waaaayyyyy back. One Jim Bede was a hot

 number operating out of Newton, KS when I was in high

 school. I think Bert Rutan worked with Jim at one time.

 The airplanes were exciting but the business model was

 a financial disaster. Interesting thing is, he cranked

 up again in St. Louis with a jet and repeated the

 process all over again. Sounds like that's what

 Viking is all about.



 Caveat emptor.



 Bob . . .

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Bob McC

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 258
Location: Toronto, ON

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject: Viking Engine

It's interesting to note that on the Viking engine website here; http://tinyurl.com/69whowh there are photographs of engines on the shipping dock (or at least crates purporting to be engines)  and it says that next weeks shipments go to  Daniel Stanton, Christopher Leng, Glen Sterling, Richard Monroe and Burton Harger .   

I understand frustration, and certainly no customer deserves to be hung up on, but is there a chance that this dissatisfaction could be premature??  

Don't know of course when that page was updated and whether or not it is current but some effort to deliver seems to be being made.   

   

Bob McC  

   

   

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> Anyone considering a Viking engine please be advised, I have had $4,300 deposit  

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> I called Jan today and he hung up on me and all I got after that was voice mail.  

> I don't think that I would be ordering an engine from him.  

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dj45

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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Viking Engine

Bob McC

That entry was on June 2nd.

I did receive an email stating  that my engine would ship on tues. July 11.

I hope so, because I really do think that he has a good idea.

It is too bad that I had to resort to posting to get him to deliver an engine after all the talk.

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N801S CH 801
N226BS CH701
N24DS CH750

Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: Viking Engine

Yep, I found the whole site very interesting and amazingly     compelling.

     

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It's                     interesting to note that on the Viking engine                     website here; http://tinyurl.com/69whowh                     there are                     photographs of engines on the shipping dock (or at                     least crates purporting to                     be engines)  and                     it says that next weeks shipments go to  Daniel                 Stanton, Christopher                 Leng, Glen Sterling, Richard Monroe and Burton                 Harger .              

I                     understand frustration, and certainly no customer                     deserves to be hung up on, but is there a chance                     that this dissatisfaction could                     be premature??             

Don't                     know of course when that page was updated and                     whether or not it is current but some effort to                     deliver seems to be being made.                                  

              

Bob                     McC             

              

              

           

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ronburnett(at)charter.net
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:11 pm Post subject: Viking Engine

I am an Eggenfellner customer buying one of the original Subaru H-4 

engines.  I am aware that there are no doubt some legitimate complaints 

about deliveries of engines and props in some cases and delivery 

schedules slid considerably in many cases.  I do not believe any 

problems were deliberate, but due to overoptimistim and subcontracting 

problems as well as others I don't pretend to know.



I believe his Honda engine would be excellent and I would consider one 

if I were to build a LSA.  He continues to sell me needed supplies, if 

they are available in his inventory.  Putting information online is 

damaging to a small business and can end up hurting the very support you 

need the most.



Have flown my RV-6A for 53 hours now and am enjoying it very much. 

buying 91 octane is much cheaper than 100LL BY about $1.50/gal.



Good luck and let's share our successes and help our alternative engine 

community.



Ron Burnett

M71 Greensfield, MO

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, dj45 wrote:erate



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 Bob McC

 That entry was on June 2nd.

 I did receive an email stating  that my engine would ship on tues. 

 July 11.

 I hope so, because I really do think that he has a good idea.

 It is too bad that I had to resort to posting to get him to deliver an 

 engine after all the talk.



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 Dan Stanton

 N801S CH 801

 N226BS CH701





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 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346000#346000

JohnInReno

Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Posts: 150

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:03 pm Post subject: Viking Engine

You do know that a Lycoming will run on 91 octane as well, right?



johninreno



On 7/11/2011 8:07 PM, ronburnett(at)charter.net wrote:

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 I am an Eggenfellner customer buying one of the original Subaru H-4 

 engines.  I am aware that there are no doubt some legitimate 

 complaints about deliveries of engines and props in some cases and 

 delivery schedules slid considerably in many cases.  I do not believe 

 any problems were deliberate, but due to overoptimistim and 

 subcontracting problems as well as others I don't pretend to know.



 I believe his Honda engine would be excellent and I would consider one 

 if I were to build a LSA.  He continues to sell me needed supplies, if 

 they are available in his inventory.  Putting information online is 

 damaging to a small business and can end up hurting the very support 

 you need the most.



 Have flown my RV-6A for 53 hours now and am enjoying it very much. 

 buying 91 octane is much cheaper than 100LL BY about $1.50/gal.



 Good luck and let's share our successes and help our alternative 

 engine community.



 Ron Burnett

 M71 Greensfield, MO

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RV4 - for sale

ronburnett(at)charter.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:06 am Post subject: Viking Engine

I by fuel with ethanol in it which is only an option for an auto engine. 

I burn non ethanol 87 octane purchased from a local Co-Op in my Luscombe 

8A.



Ron Burnett



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On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:59 PM, John Morgensen wrote:



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 You do know that a Lycoming will run on 91 octane as well, right?



 johninreno



 On 7/11/2011 8:07 PM, ronburnett(at)charter.net wrote:

> 

>

> I am an Eggenfellner customer buying one of the original Subaru H-4 

> engines.  I am aware that there are no doubt some legitimate 

> complaints about deliveries of engines and props in some cases and 

> delivery schedules slid considerably in many cases.  I do not believe 

> any problems were deliberate, but due to overoptimistim and 

> subcontracting problems as well as others I don't pretend to know.

>

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henador_titzoff(at)yahoo.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:28 am Post subject: Viking Engine

The fact that a Lycoming will run on 100LL is a BIG PLUS when traveling cross country, as that's what's mostly available at airports.  The fact that a Lycoming will run on unleaded automotive fuel is a BIG PLUS when operating out of your home field or near a mogas available airport.  Best of both worlds.

I was looking at the pictures on the Viking website.  What is a Columbian Viking dealer, besides a good looking señor citizen?

 

Henador Titzoff



From: John Morgensen <john(at)morgensen.com>

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:59 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Viking Engine



--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: John Morgensen <john(at)morgensen.com (john(at)morgensen.com)>



You do know that a Lycoming will run on 91 octane as well, right?



johninreno



On 7/11/2011 8:07 PM, ronburnett(at)charter.net (ronburnett(at)charter.net) wrote:

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		   --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: ronburnett(at)charter.net (ronburnett(at)charter.net)

 

 I am an Eggenfellner  customer buying one of the original Subaru H-4 engines.  I am aware that there are no doubt some legitimate complaints about deliveries of engines and props in some cases and delivery schedules slid considerably in many cases.  I do not believe any problems were deliberate, but due to overoptimistim and subcontracting problems as well as others I don't pretend to know.

 

 I believe his Honda engine would be excellent and I would consider one if I were to build a LSA.  He continues to sell me needed supplies, if they are available in his inventory.  Putting information online is damaging to a small business and can end up hurting the very support you need the most.

 

 Have flown my RV-6A for 53 hours now and am enjoying it very much. buying 91 octane is much cheaper than 100LL BY about $1.50/gal.

 

 Good luck and let's share our successes and help our alternative engine community.

  

 Ron Burnett

 M71 Greensfield, MO

 

 


	


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n801bh(at)NetZero.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:05 am Post subject: Viking Engine

That's incorrect. If you fly an experimental then you can burn anything you want in it, auto engine or not. And since we are talking about Viking engines, considering they CANNOT be installed in a Luscombe, I don't really see your point. 

do not archive



Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



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Mike Welch

Joined: 13 Feb 2011
Posts: 272

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:36 am Post subject: Viking Engine

Guys,



  To augment Ben's point, even if you do have a certified plane, you still don't have the

'right' to burn auto gas as the plane comes out of the factory, do you?  From my

experience, if you want to use auto gas in a certified airplane, you have to PAY for 

an 'STC'.

  Maybe newer aircraft have auto gas approved engines from the factory.  I don't know.

I never owned a newer certified plane, but the older ones required the STC, and they 

weren't free.



Mike Welch

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		  That's incorrect. If you fly an experimental then you can burn anything you want in it, auto engine or not. And since we are talking about >Viking engines, considering they CANNOT be installed in a Luscombe, I don't really see your point.

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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:45 am Post subject: Viking Engine

What does any of this have to do with aircraft electrics??

On 7/12/2011 7:32 AM, Mike Welch wrote:

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		   Guys,



   To augment Ben's point, even if you do have a certified plane, you 

 still don't have the

 'right' to burn auto gas as the plane comes out of the factory, do you?

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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:23 am Post subject: Viking Engine

At 09:41 AM 7/12/2011, you wrote:

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What does any of this have to do with aircraft electrics??


	


  Not much, but all the discussions about "who manufactured

  my airplane" didn't either. But it is OBAM aviation and

  delete buttons work well on any uninteresting posting.

   Bob . . .

pete-farrell(at)kc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:29 am Post subject: Viking Engine

To All,

 The ability to burn any fuel is tied to the limitations of the  airplane, whether certificated or experimental.  In the case of a  certificated airplane, to change the type of fuel used in the airplane, an STC  would be required.  In the experimental, it would most likely require going  back into Phase 1.

 In certificated airplanes, the Type Certificate Data Sheet (TCDS)  shows the fuel that is allowed for use.  In order to use any other fuel,  and maintain the airworthiness of the airplane, an STC would be required.   The FAA doesn't dictate what fuel can be used, but rather the applicant shows  they can meet the certification requirements using a fuel, or fuels, and then  that is what is placed on the TCDS.  The fuel itself has to have a  specification.  There's a whole separate argument about fuel  specifications, but I will not go into that here. To use any fuel other  than what is on the TCDS requires an STC.  Note: an STC is for someone who  isn't the type design holder (manufacturer).  The type design  holder can amend their TCDS to show additional fuels, but the process for  fuel approval is identical to the STC.

 I have not been involved with alternate fuel testing on experimental  airplanes, but it sounds analogous to the use of an alternate  powerplant.  I would imagine there would be a 40 hour Phase 1 that  would have to be accomplished prior to being able to operate beyond the Phase 1  operating area.

 I know this subject is not electric in nature, but I was trying to  help and  provide some clarification based upon the  discussion.

 Pete Rouse

 From:  owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike  Welch

Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:33 AM

To:  aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Re:  Viking Engine

 Guys,

  To augment Ben's point, even if you do have a  certified plane, you still don't have the

'right' to burn auto gas as the  plane comes out of the factory, do you?  From my

experience, if you want  to use auto gas in a certified airplane, you have to PAY for 

an  'STC'.

  Maybe newer aircraft have auto gas approved engines from the  factory.  I don't know.

I never owned a newer certified plane, but the  older ones required the STC, and they 

weren't free.

Mike  Welch

 >That's incorrect. If you fly an experimental then you can burn anything  you want in it, auto engine or not. And since we are talking about  >Viking engines, considering they CANNOT be installed in a Luscombe, I don't  really see your point.

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		  Ben  Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com

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From: ronburnett(at)charter.net

To:  aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: Viking  Engine

Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:02:18 -0400 (EDT)

-->  AeroElectric-List message posted by: ronburnett(at)charter.net

I by fuel  with ethanol in it which is only an option for an auto engine. 

I burn non  ethanol 87 octane purchased from a local Co-Op in my Luscombe 

8A.

Ron  Burnett

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On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:59 PM, John  Morgensen wrote:

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 You do know that a  Lycoming will run on 91 octane as well, right?

  johninreno

 On 7/11/2011 8:07 PM, ronburnett(at)charter.net  wrote:

> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by:  ronburnett(at)charter.net

>

> I am an Eggenfellner customer  buying one of the original Subaru H-4 

> engines.  I am aware  that there are no doubt some legitimate 

> complaints about deliveries  of engines and props in some cases and 

> delivery schedules slid  considerably in many cases.  I do not believe 

> any problems  were deliberate, but due to overoptimistim and 

> subcontracting  problems as well as others I don't pretend to  know.

>

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