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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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Life got in the way for a bit but I'm back on track building and airplane again.......
Curious to know how many people installed washers under their plexiglas at the time they were installed. Mine sit proud enough as it is and I'd really prefer not to use them if possible. Any results from those who didn't use them and how long have you been flying?
Hope to catch some of you at Osh this year....
Phil
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:37 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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I did not use spacers... but did level out the recessed areas with flox using the windows as forms
Jeff Carpenter
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On Jul 14, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Phillip Perry wrote:
[quote]I guess everyone used spacers - huh??
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Life got in the way for a bit but I'm back on track building and airplane again.......
Curious to know how many people installed washers under their plexiglas at the time they were installed. Mine sit proud enough as it is and I'd really prefer not to use them if possible. Any results from those who didn't use them and how long have you been flying?
Hope to catch some of you at Osh this year....
Phil
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Jim Berry
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:40 am Post subject: Re: Spacers under windows |
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As I recall, the only reason to use spacers is if the plexi sits below the fiberglass.
Jim Berry
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:09 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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I didn't use spacers at all on any windows.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:10 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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I used one or two total for all 4 windows……if I remember correctly. J
Rene' Felker
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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:55 AM
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Subject: Re: Spacers under windows
I guess everyone used spacers - huh??
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Phil Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Life got in the way for a bit but I'm back on track building and airplane again.......
Curious to know how many people installed washers under their plexiglas at the time they were installed. Mine sit proud enough as it is and I'd really prefer not to use them if possible. Any results from those who didn't use them and how long have you been flying?
Hope to catch some of you at Osh this year....
Phil
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:24 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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Be sure to add two one inch biased glass strips around the external frame to
prevent the flange line appearing out of the paint in a hindered hours or
so.
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Strasnuts
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:38 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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I did use spacers but thinking back I wish I would have let the plexi sit
low and carve a little of the cabin down to accept the thickness of the
glass tape around the windows. That way it wouldn't have been such a big
job to transition the hump out of the glass tape around the windows to the
cabin.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:40 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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The purpose of the spacers is to fill a gap. Sounds like that is not your issue. Leave it I say!
From: Phillip Perry (philperry9(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:55 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Spacers under windows
I guess everyone used spacers - huh??
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Phil Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Phil Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)>
Life got in the way for a bit but I'm back on track building and airplane again.......
Curious to know how many people installed washers under their plexiglas at the time they were installed. Mine sit proud enough as it is and I'd really prefer not to use them if possible. Any results from those who didn't use them and how long have you been flying?
Hope to catch some of you at Osh this year....
Phil
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Spacers under windows |
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No washers, just the thicker Weld-On 45 to fill any gaps.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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No washers and no Weld-On. I used Hysol
(http://shop.lancair.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=9360-QT&CatId={992B7B06-E01B
-4918-BB0C-79343CDB7869}
adding just a little flox to thicken as required (this is enough Hysol for 2
or 3 RV-10s). I used clamps to make the glass panels flush with the canopy
cut outs, letting it sit for 24 hours before removing the clamps. The Hysol
is full strength after a week or so. I did add a narrow two bid layup over
the window/canopy junction to prevent the window paint cracking problem.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (650 hrs)
RV-10 (moving the fuselage into the paint booth this weekend)
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:02 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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Acetone is very hard on Acrylic. It will cause chemical crazing. I would recommend something else.
Gary Specketer
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Spacers under windows
Thanks for the feedback. One last question.
What can I use to wipe off wet Weld-on? I'm thinking I'll wipe the oozing off with acetone on the interior and exterior sides.
Is there something that works better?
Phil
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net (rv10flyer(at)verizon.net)> wrote:
The purpose of the spacers is to fill a gap. Sounds like that is not your issue. Leave it I say!
From: Phillip Perry (philperry9(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:55 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Spacers under windows
I guess everyone used spacers - huh??
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Phil Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Phil Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)>
Life got in the way for a bit but I'm back on track building and airplane again.......
Curious to know how many people installed washers under their plexiglas at the time they were installed. Mine sit proud enough as it is and I'd really prefer not to use them if possible. Any results from those who didn't use them and how long have you been flying?
Hope to catch some of you at Osh this year....
Phil
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:05 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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Phil acetone is very bad for acrylic.
I would avoid the Weld on and use
Lord urethane adhesive. Stronger than
Weld on and you get a longer cure time
And you can clean the oozing off with
Enamel reducer. Ppg dt 870 is what
I used. Will not hurt the acrylic
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Thanks for the feedback. One last question.
What can I use to wipe off wet Weld-on? I'm thinking I'll wipe the oozing off with acetone on the interior and exterior sides.
Is there something that works better?
Phil
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pascal <[url=mailto:rv10flyer(at)verizon.net]rv10flyer(at)verizon.net (rv10flyer(at)verizon.net)[/url]> wrote:
Quote: | The purpose of the spacers is to fill a gap. Sounds like that is not your issue. Leave it I say!
From: Phillip Perry (philperry9(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:55 AM
To: [url=mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com]rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)[/url]
Subject: Re: Spacers under windows
I guess everyone used spacers - huh??
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Phil Perry <[url=mailto:philperry9(at)gmail.com]philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)[/url]> wrote:
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:54 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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I used a 50/50 mixture of acetone and mineral spirits to clear away the west system epoxy.
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:01 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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Phil I would be careful with that as well. That can affect some acrylics. Sometimes it can cause crazing later on in the
Life of the window.
Geoff
[b]Geoff Combs[/b]
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 2:27 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Spacers under windows
I hope denatured alcohol isn't a problem. That's what I cleaned the mating surfaces with last night.
Phil
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, g.combs <g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com (g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com)> wrote:
Phil acetone is very bad for acrylic.
I would avoid the Weld on and use
Lord urethane adhesive. Stronger than
Weld on and you get a longer cure time
And you can clean the oozing off with
Enamel reducer. Ppg dt 870 is what
I used. Will not hurt the acrylic
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:14 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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Kerosene is what you want.
Tim
On 7/15/2011 1:57 PM, Geoff Combs wrote:
Quote: | Phil I would be careful with that as well. That can affect some
acrylics. Sometimes it can cause crazing later on in the
Life of the window.
Geoff
**Geoff Combs**
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*From:*owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Phillip Perry
*Sent:* Friday, July 15, 2011 2:27 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: Spacers under windows
I hope denatured alcohol isn't a problem. That's what I cleaned the
mating surfaces with last night.
Phil
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, g.combs <g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com
<mailto:g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com>> wrote:
Phil acetone is very bad for acrylic.
I would avoid the Weld on and use
Lord urethane adhesive. Stronger than
Weld on and you get a longer cure time
And you can clean the oozing off with
Enamel reducer. Ppg dt 870 is what
I used. Will not hurt the acrylic
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com
<mailto:philperry9(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback. One last question.
>
> What can I use to wipe off wet Weld-on? I'm thinking I'll wipe the
> oozing off with acetone on the interior and exterior sides.
>
> Is there something that works better?
>
> Phil
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pascal
> <<mailto:rv10flyer(at)verizon.net>rv10flyer(at)verizon.net
> <mailto:rv10flyer(at)verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> The purpose of the spacers is to fill a gap. Sounds like that is not
> your issue. Leave it I say!
>
> *From:*Phillip Perry <mailto:philperry9(at)gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:*Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:55 AM
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> *To:*<mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com>rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> <mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
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> *Subject:*Re: Spacers under windows
>
> I guess everyone used spacers - huh??
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Phil Perry
> <<mailto:philperry9(at)gmail.com>philperry9(at)gmail.com
> <mailto:philperry9(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
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> <<mailto:philperry9(at)gmail.com>philperry9(at)gmail.com
> <mailto:philperry9(at)gmail.com>>
>
> Life got in the way for a bit but I'm back on track building and
> airplane again.......
>
> Curious to know how many people installed washers under their
> plexiglas at the time they were installed. Mine sit proud enough as it
> is and I'd really prefer not to use them if possible. Any results from
> those who didn't use them and how long have you been flying?
>
> Hope to catch some of you at Osh this year....
>
> Phil
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I'm wondering if the spacers were needed with the old style tops more than the current gen. Mine was first gen and needed space but In my Weld-On rush I forgot to add them back in so mine ended up a bit low. You have such little room between the door frame and the side windows I wasn't keen on cutting it out for the tap and risk weakening the structure so I just built it up as is.
Michael
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:08 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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Geoff,
Where can we overseas types get Lord adhesives; their website doesn't provide that info?
Many thanks,
Rodger
In storm cast Oz
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From: g.combs <g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com>
Subject: Re: Spacers under windows
To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: Friday, 15 July, 2011, 20:02
Phil acetone is very bad for acrylic.
I would avoid the Weld on and use
Lord urethane adhesive. Stronger than
Weld on and you get a longer cure time
And you can clean the oozing off with
Enamel reducer. Ppg dt 870 is what
I used. Will not hurt the acrylic
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Thanks for the feedback. One last question.
What can I use to wipe off wet Weld-on? I'm thinking I'll wipe the oozing off with acetone on the interior and exterior sides.
Is there something that works better?
Phil
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net (rv10flyer(at)verizon.net)> wrote:
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:18 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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Rodger I will check into this and let you know.
Geoff
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On Jul 16, 2011, at 6:05 AM, Rodger Todd <rj_todd(at)yahoo.co.uk (rj_todd(at)yahoo.co.uk)> wrote:
[quote]Geoff,
Where can we overseas types get Lord adhesives; their website doesn't provide that info?
Many thanks,
Rodger
In storm cast Oz
--- On Fri, 15/7/11, g.combs <g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com (g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com)> wrote:
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From: g.combs <g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com (g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com)>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spacers under windows
To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Friday, 15 July, 2011, 20:02
Phil acetone is very bad for acrylic.
I would avoid the Weld on and use
Lord urethane adhesive. Stronger than
Weld on and you get a longer cure time
And you can clean the oozing off with
Enamel reducer. Ppg dt 870 is what
I used. Will not hurt the acrylic
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Phillip Perry <[url=mailto:philperry9(at)gmail.com]philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)[/url]> wrote:
Quote: | Thanks for the feedback. One last question.
What can I use to wipe off wet Weld-on? I'm thinking I'll wipe the oozing off with acetone on the interior and exterior sides.
Is there something that works better?
Phil
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pascal < (rv10flyer(at)verizon.net)[url=mailto:rv10flyer(at)verizon.net]rv10flyer(at)verizon.net (rv10flyer(at)verizon.net)[/url]> wrote:
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:58 am Post subject: Spacers under windows |
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Thanks very much,
Rodger
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From: g.combs <g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com>
Subject: Re: Spacers under windows
To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: Sunday, 17 July, 2011, 16:15
Rodger I will check into this and let you know.
Geoff
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 16, 2011, at 6:05 AM, Rodger Todd <rj_todd(at)yahoo.co.uk (rj_todd(at)yahoo.co.uk)> wrote:
Quote: | Geoff,
Where can we overseas types get Lord adhesives; their website doesn't provide that info?
Many thanks,
Rodger
In storm cast Oz
--- On Fri, 15/7/11, g.combs <g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com (g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com)> wrote:
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From: g.combs <g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com (g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com)>
Subject: Re: Spacers under windows
To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Friday, 15 July, 2011, 20:02
Phil acetone is very bad for acrylic.
I would avoid the Weld on and use
Lord urethane adhesive. Stronger than
Weld on and you get a longer cure time
And you can clean the oozing off with
Enamel reducer. Ppg dt 870 is what
I used. Will not hurt the acrylic
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Thanks for the feedback. One last question.
What can I use to wipe off wet Weld-on? I'm thinking I'll wipe the oozing off with acetone on the interior and exterior sides.
Is there something that works better?
Phil
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net (rv10flyer(at)verizon.net)> wrote:
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