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rickofudall



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:24 am    Post subject: More on the N number issue Reply with quote

I sent this directly to Boyd, but should have copied the Kolb list, too.

Boyd, Sorry if you felt that I was directing my request for no shooting at you. When I first posted the warning about losing the A/W certificate if an E-LSA's registration was allowed to lapse on the Rotax engine list, I got some really abusive private emails for my trouble. There are some real jerks out there who run Rotax engines. I'll do the best I can to explain as I understand it. 
Buying a type certificated plane, a Cessna or a Mooney, is a lot like buying a car. You buy the plane and the dealer files the paper work to transfer the registration to you. The A/W certificate work had been done by the factory. Just like a car, although with a car you get paperwork that says your car meets all the Federal regulations about safety, but no single certificate that has to be carried in the car (a Road Worthiness certificate, if you will).
Now imagine if cars were like experimental aircraft. You would go to the dealer and buy the car, then file to register it. Before you could drive it away, a DMV representative would have to come out, inspect it, examine all that safety paperwork, make sure the VIN number was stamped on the car's chassis, and then issue the pink slip.
Now comes re-registration. E-LSA, the FAA's version of the red-headed step child, is the only category of aircraft that I know of that is affected in this way. You let the registration lapse and it gets cancelled. You want to re-register but the form that has to be filed with the 8050-1, "Aircraft Registration Application" (the three parter), the 8050-88A , "AFFIDAVIT OF OWNERSHIP" has been revised since February 1st, 2008. In the declaration section it no longer has the box to check that said, basically, this is a previously flying aircraft (Fat Ultralight) that I built and flew quasi-legally under the FAR 103 training exemption. Now, there are only two boxes, one for S-LSA and one for E-LSA and both require that the aircraft "will meet all applicable consensus standards" either under FAR 21.190 for box 1 (S-LSA) or FAR 21.191 i(2) for box 2 (E-LSA). This means that you must have the Certificate of Compliance that comes with your aircraft or your kit, respectively. Obviously we "Fat Ultralight" owners don't have that certificate and can't get one by any reasonable means. Without it, now, you can't re-register the aircraft. Since we register to get an A/W cert, no registration, no A/W cert.


Rick

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