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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Warning - New Bose Line Power Cables Only 3' Long! Reply with quote

Just a heads up to those installing or planning on installing Bose X or A20 Active NR headsets using the inline power jacks. Specifically these units:

http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/headphones/aviation_headsets/accessories/headset_installkit_acc.jsp

They now come with only 3 feet of cable! Three years ago they came with 6 feet of cable and I thought at the time that 6 feet seemed a little short. Now 3 feet? What idiot penny pincher in Bose marketing decided "three feet should be plenty". Here's quote from the Bose web page above: "Three-foot wiring harness with six pin female connector allows for *placement in locations throughout aircraft*." WTF? On what planet will a 3-foot hardness reach "locations throughout the aircraft". That's just plain stupid.

If these were third rate, el-cheapo headsets, I'd write it off to penny pinching, but for a >$1000 product that you then have to spend an additional $32 for an installation cable, cheaping out on the cable length is just simply unacceptable.

I have the jacks mounted in the center of the RV-8, and the cables don't even reach to the righthand control console. What does Bose expect people to do; splice the wire? That's ridiculous! What would somebody installing in the back seats of a 4 or 6 place airplane do?

Of course I wrote a scathing email to Bose Support just now. I'm sure they will write back with "for most of our customers, three feet is sufficient".

Given this direction within Bose, I'd definitely consider the new Sennheiser S1 if I had to do it over again. Additionally, the Sennheiser's Bluetooth supports the A2DP, AVRCP STEREO profiles. The Bose A20's Bluetooth does NOT support stereo. It must have been the same marketing moron that dictated 3' cables that decided not to include stereo Bluetooth profiles. Unbelievable.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:18 pm    Post subject: Warning - New Bose Line Power Cables Only 3' Long! Reply with quote

My $200 Stereo Peltor headset cables are plenty long Smile

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On Aug 13, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:

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Just a heads up to those installing or planning on installing Bose X or A20 Active NR headsets using the inline power jacks. Specifically these units:

http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/headphones/aviation_headsets/accessories/headset_installkit_acc.jsp

They now come with only 3 feet of cable! Three years ago they came with 6 feet of cable and I thought at the time that 6 feet seemed a little short. Now 3 feet? What idiot penny pincher in Bose marketing decided "three feet should be plenty". Here's quote from the Bose web page above: "Three-foot wiring harness with six pin female connector allows for *placement in locations throughout aircraft*." WTF? On what planet will a 3-foot hardness reach "locations throughout the aircraft". That's just plain stupid.

If these were third rate, el-cheapo headsets, I'd write it off to penny pinching, but for a >$1000 product that you then have to spend an additional $32 for an installation cable, cheaping out on the cable length is just simply unacceptable.

I have the jacks mounted in the center of the RV-8, and the cables don't even reach to the righthand control console. What does Bose expect people to do; splice the wire? That's ridiculous! What would somebody installing in the back seats of a 4 or 6 place airplane do?

Of course I wrote a scathing email to Bose Support just now. I'm sure they will write back with "for most of our customers, three feet is sufficient".

Given this direction within Bose, I'd definitely consider the new Sennheiser S1 if I had to do it over again. Additionally, the Sennheiser's Bluetooth supports the A2DP, AVRCP STEREO profiles. The Bose A20's Bluetooth does NOT support stereo. It must have been the same marketing moron that dictated 3' cables that decided not to include stereo Bluetooth profiles. Unbelievable.

Matt


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:12 am    Post subject: Warning - New Bose Line Power Cables Only 3' Long! Reply with quote

Matt,
Don't forget lightSpeed. I have had very good luck with the 2 sets I've purchased....no problems, light weight and generous trade up program.
Tom in Ohio
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject: Warning - New Bose Line Power Cables Only 3' Long! Reply with quote

Matt,
I'd have to agree that the lack of A2DP profile was a stupid
move. That said, I have a PMA8000BT audio panel (for ISO/Crew/All
seats) and also a pair of Belkin Aircast Auto pucks for Bluetooth
for the rear seat users. Those Belkin devices for under $80
are a great way to go for bluetooth stereo to your headsets.
I'm not a fan of cords of any type, but honestly I don't see
much value in a bluetooth headset unless you typically
fly alone. Most people will want to share the music and
share the experience, and that's much easier with a bluetooth
intercom, or that belkin adapter plugged into your standard
intercom. So I'd just go down that route and you'll
probably be happier. The only pain with the Belkin way
would be if you frequently use the cellphone and also music...if
you do that, I'd recommend the intercom route instead.

I'd also agree that 3' is kind of short for those install cables,
and 6' would be a bit more practical, but considering that most
people will install them right next to existing jacks, I
can see why they go that route. Personally, I'd rather see
them sold both ways, with a $5 upcharge for the 6' cord.
I don't know that any longer than that is good though....those
wires are awfully thin to run with the rest of the wire runs.
In my plane, I only needed 12", so 3' was even overkill.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

On 8/13/2011 8:12 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
Quote:

Just a heads up to those installing or planning on installing Bose X
or A20 Active NR headsets using the inline power jacks. Specifically
these units:

http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/headphones/aviation_headsets/accessories/headset_installkit_acc.jsp

They now come with only 3 feet of cable! Three years ago they came
with 6 feet of cable and I thought at the time that 6 feet seemed a
little short. Now 3 feet? What idiot penny pincher in Bose
marketing decided "three feet should be plenty". Here's quote from
the Bose web page above: "Three-foot wiring harness with six pin
female connector allows for *placement in locations throughout
aircraft*." WTF? On what planet will a 3-foot hardness reach
"locations throughout the aircraft". That's just plain stupid.

If these were third rate, el-cheapo headsets, I'd write it off to
penny pinching, but for a>$1000 product that you then have to spend
an additional $32 for an installation cable, cheaping out on the
cable length is just simply unacceptable.

I have the jacks mounted in the center of the RV-8, and the cables
don't even reach to the righthand control console. What does Bose
expect people to do; splice the wire? That's ridiculous! What would
somebody installing in the back seats of a 4 or 6 place airplane do?

Of course I wrote a scathing email to Bose Support just now. I'm
sure they will write back with "for most of our customers, three feet
is sufficient".

Given this direction within Bose, I'd definitely consider the new
Sennheiser S1 if I had to do it over again. Additionally, the
Sennheiser's Bluetooth supports the A2DP, AVRCP STEREO profiles. The
Bose A20's Bluetooth does NOT support stereo. It must have been the
same marketing moron that dictated 3' cables that decided not to
include stereo Bluetooth profiles. Unbelievable.

Matt
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Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing
Mishap...



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