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carl(at)flyers.freeserve.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:07 am    Post subject: Mode S transponders ? Reply with quote
What is the current position on Mode S in the UK.

Is it still March 2012 or is it the case that we only need this if flying in controlled airspace (or Europe) and if so what is deemed to be controlled airspace (ie: what class of airspace). Some sources are suggesting it is only the London TMA and parts of the Edinburgh/ Glasgow.

Can somebody point in the direction of a SIMPLE explanation of the current position.

Looks like a case of having to spend £1,500 minimum to upgrade from the current Mode C setup. It’s a Terra unit who I believe are out of business (so no chance of an upgrade)

Cost of these units doesent seem to be reducing so is there any point in waiting.

Carl
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:52 am    Post subject: Mode S transponders ? Reply with quote
Doesn’t exactly answer my question but makes it clear that after December 2011 my transponder (Terra 250D) won’t be visible to many traffic control services.                                                                                                                                                                           

http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=2816&sid=c3148430b767061a51d6616159521ded

I suspect many of us already flying will have the same problem (and possibly some still building)

Not so much the case that we have to fit the transponders but that what we have fitted won’t work anymore. (ie: cannot be interrogated by ATC).

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Pattinson
Sent: 21 August 2011 12:04
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Subject: Mode S transponders ?

What is the current position on Mode S in the UK.

Is it still March 2012 or is it the case that we only need this if flying in controlled airspace (or Europe) and if so what is deemed to be controlled airspace (ie: what class of airspace). Some sources are suggesting it is only the London TMA and parts of the Edinburgh/ Glasgow.

Can somebody point in the direction of a SIMPLE explanation of the current position.

Looks like a case of having to spend £1,500 minimum to upgrade from the current Mode C setup. It’s a Terra unit who I believe are out of business (so no chance of an upgrade)

Cost of these units doesent seem to be reducing so is there any point in waiting.

Carl
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:34 am    Post subject: Mode S transponders ? Reply with quote
The CAA Websire link is here

http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=1066&pagetype=90&pageid=12136
and the PDF document in the UK AIP is here

http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadbasic/pamslight-BA48DDEC21A526F8DB67C8E96A4051BC/7FE5QZZF3FXUS/EN/AIP/GEN/EG_GEN_1_5_en_2011-07-28.pdf
You need to go to page GEN 1-5-14 paragraph 5.3
I haven't read it well enough to translate.
Alan

On 21 Aug 2011, at 12:49, Carl Pattinson wrote:
[quote]Doesn’t exactly answer my question but makes it clear that after December 2011 my transponder (Terra 250D) won’t be visible to many traffic control services.                          

http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=2816&sid=c3148430b767061a51d6616159521ded

I suspect many of us already flying will have the same problem (and possibly some still building)

Not so much the case that we have to fit the transponders but that what we have fitted won’t work anymore. (ie: cannot be interrogated by ATC).

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Pattinson
Sent: 21 August 2011 12:04
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Mode S transponders ?

What is the current position on Mode S in the UK.

Is it still March 2012 or is it the case that we only need this if flying in controlled airspace (or Europe) and if so what is deemed to be controlled airspace (ie: what class of airspace). Some sources are suggesting it is only the London TMA and parts of the Edinburgh/ Glasgow.

Can somebody point in the direction of a SIMPLE explanation of the current position.

Looks like a case of having to spend £1,500 minimum to upgrade from the current Mode C setup. It’s a Terra unit who I believe are out of business (so no chance of an upgrade)

Cost of these units doesent seem to be reducing so is there any point in waiting.

Carl
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