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Matt Dralle
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

Sorry listers.  Some Russia spammers have found the forum and are subscribing themselves, then sending out this spam.  I've deleted the accounts from the forum and will keep my eye out for future subscriptions.  Absolutely don't click on the links as they are likely virus or Trojan sources.  I've invalidated the links below, but left them in for reference.



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Matt Dralle

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At 08:38 AM 5/18/2006  Thursday, you wrote:

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I'd just like to tell u guys that this is the best thing next to popcorn. 



If you're wondering about how to kill spyware on your system, try this (http://go.winfantispyware.com/MzQ0OA==/2/2291//)! 



If you're also wondering about how to maintain an error-free PC and achieve 100% system performance, try this (http://go.winffixer.com/MzQ0Ng==/2/2291//)! 



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Ralph Hoover

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 206
Location: Central Ohio

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Best thing next to popcorn!

MAtt, your looking good!  



Darned, you fooled me, Thats the same picture you always use. How about some new views, expressions, mabe a flat top haircut?



Ohio Ralph in trouble with the big guy now!

slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

Matt, those russkies are smart dudes.  They may yet rule the world.

They sure kicked Adolf's butt.

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On 18, May 2006, at 4:14 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Sorry listers.  Some Russia spammers have found the forum and are 

 subscribing themselves, then sending out this spam.  I've deleted the 

 accounts from the forum and will keep my eye out for future 

 subscriptions.  Absolutely don't click on the links as they are likely 

 virus or Trojan sources.  I've invalidated the links below, but left 

 them in for reference.

 Best regards,

 Matt Dralle

 Matronics Email List Adin

 At 08:38 AM 5/18/2006  Thursday, you wrote:

> 

>

> I'd just like to tell u guys that this is the best thing next to 

> popcorn.

>

> If you're wondering about how to kill spyware on your system, try 

> this (http://go.winfantispyware.com/MzQ0OA==/2/2291//)!

>

> If you're also wondering about how to maintain an error-free PC and 

> achieve 100% system performance, try this 

> (http://go.winffixer.com/MzQ0Ng==/2/2291//)!

>

> 2Admin: Sorry if the message doesn't suit your forum. Kindly ask to 

> move it to an  appropriate section. Thank you 

>

 Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551

 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email

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Ralph Hoover

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 206
Location: Central Ohio

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Best thing next to popcorn!

Matt, those russkies are smart dudes. They may yet rule the world. 

They sure kicked Adolf's butt. 

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Slyk, It was the God blessed Americana that kick the Hitler butt! I'm sure the ruskee's helped, but thats cause they feared for their lives cause they was closer. We as Americans just don't deal with little meally mouthed germans running around telling us they are going to blow us up!



Now I feel much more Ohioan born, bred and raised, American Ralph!



Matt, I love you man! I always wanted to sy that for the queers got to abuse it all up!



archive this if you must, or don't  (not)!

slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

(apologies for non-airplane related subject matter)



Well I guess my statement looked like a setup, but...

Strange then that Hitler invaded Russia in 1941 and we didn't

do D day until 1944.  By then Adolph had committed 75% of his

army to the east, lost 4 million troops,  the battle of Stalingrad, 

which

was the largest single battle in the history of the human race.

Russia lost 12 million lives and still followed up by defeating

the german armor at the battle of Kursk, which was largest confrontation

of tanks and armor ever in history.

-Then went in to Berlin to clean up.



Stalin could have subsequently taken the rest of europe but we

mellowed him out with appeasement at Malta.



Russia remains to this day the most dangerous force on the planet.

This is their initial hit man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topol-M



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On 18, May 2006, at 6:32 PM, Ralph Hoover wrote:



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 Matt, those russkies are smart dudes. They may yet rule the world.

 They sure kicked Adolf's butt.

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 Slyk, It was the God blessed Americana that kick the Hitler butt! I'm 

 sure the ruskee's helped, but thats cause they feared for their lives 

 cause they was closer. We as Americans just don't deal with little 

 meally mouthed germans running around telling us they are going to 

 blow us up!



 Now I feel much more Ohioan born, bred and raised, American Ralph!



 Matt, I love you man! I always wanted to sy that for the queers got to 

 abuse it all up!



 archive this if you must, or don't  (not)!





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=35272#35272

Ralph Hoover

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 206
Location: Central Ohio

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Best thing next to popcorn!

slyck,



Sorry, didn't mean to raise the (airplane related) "tailfeathers". Thats why we were able to beat them. The Russians wore them down. Still to this day, I find it so difficult to fully understand how one man with a (sick) dream was able to take on the whole known world and almost get away with it. Talk about timing and a world blind sided by a country so desperate but so prepared. A country by the way no bigger than California. THe whole world....and almost all at the same time. What resources, dedication, forsight, conniving, cunningness. scarry what man can do when let loose to his own ways.



If we don't learn from the past, we are bound to repeat it.  Whish I could be credited with saying that, bu , alsa, not!



Ohio Ralph



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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:47 am Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

<<By then Adolph had committed 75% of his army to the east,>>



(Only a smidgeon of Kolb here so delete if you are not interested)



Hi Robert and Ralph,



I dont want to start WW3 but when one of the German Generals (Guderian?) was 

questioned by a reporter after the war about which was the most significant 

battle of the war the expected answer was  Kursk or Stalingrad. To the 

surprise of everyone the reply was "The Battle of Britain. If we had won 

that there could have been no invasion threat and our entire strength would 

have been turned on the Russians and we would have won"



So I think we should consider the fact that everyone played a part and it is 

difficult to pinpoint the most significant contribution. It is at least a 

strong possibility that we might have lost the Battle of Britain had it not 

been for the Poles who fled to England and joined the RAF. They were , in 

the main, the only ones who had actually fought the Germans. Our chaps were 

ill equipped,poorly trained  in up to date fighting methods and were still 

flying air display box formations against the Me109 finger four formation 

which the Germans had perfected in Spain. Most of our guys with actual 

battle experience were dead in France.



You could of course argue that the war was won by Mitchell and Sidney Cam. 

If they had not produced the Spitfire and the Hurricane???? .....We could 

not have scrambled fighters to intercept without the invention of Radar (or 

radiolocation as we called it) by Watson Watt.......The daylight bombing 

could not have continued without the introduction of the Mustang



I wouldn`t for the world wish to denigrate the part played by the U  S. and 

we were damn glad to see you arrive in these islands but I think it is worth 

remembering  that if it wasn`t for us hanging in there, alone, there would 

have been nowhere from which to launch an invasion . Hitler would have 

occupied all of Europe and probably Russia and he would have been knocking 

on your door sooner or later.

Of course Hitler committed a major mistake by declaring war on the US. 

Without it you might habe just concentrated on the Pacific.



What I woul like to see is an acknowledgement of the part played by the 

British Navy in the Pacific in the face of  specific orders by the Brit 

hating American Commander that no no help was to be extented to the Royal 

Navy in the shape of refuelling, rearming ,re supplying. etc . Luckily 

individual American Captains had a more enlightened attitude.



Yes Matte, I know there were very few Kolbs in the Battle of Britain and 

probably not many mixed up with the Sturmovics and the whole thing is very 

`off topic` and I promise not to do it again.



Anyone want to continue this `off list`. I love getting other peoples point 

of view.



Cheers

Pat



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MKIIIX040

Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 123
Location: Millinocket, Maine

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

Pat Wrote

I dont want to start WW3



I'd say your right Pat. Based on documentary's I've seen on the telly here 

and what limited amount I really understand. Hitler didn't care about lives 

only strategy.



Vic

N40KX 912ul

Maine 



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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

What resources, dedication, forsight, conniving, cunningness. scarry what 

man can do when let loose to his own ways.>>



Hi Ralph,



not only that but he wrote a book about how he was going to do it. Nobody 

took any notice.



Just like Ron Hubbard, the science fiction writer. He wrote an article about 

how to make money by inventing a religion and then went ahead and started 

Scientology.



Perhaps someone can write an article about how to take over the FAA.  That 

would be useful.



Cheers



Pat



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David.Lehman

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 265
Location: "Lovely" Fresno CA

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:07 am Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

Too late Pat, that novel's been written, it's entitled ISO 9000...



DVD



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On 5/19/06, pat ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> wrote:

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 What resources, dedication, forsight, conniving, cunningness. scarry what

 man can do when let loose to his own ways.>>



 Hi Ralph,



 not only that but he wrote a book about how he was going to do it. Nobody

 took any notice.



 Just like Ron Hubbard, the science fiction writer. He wrote an article

 about

 how to make money by inventing a religion and then went ahead and started

 Scientology.



 Perhaps someone can write an article about how to take over the FAA.  Tha=

t
	


 	  Quote: 	
		   would be useful.



 Cheers



 Pat



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decarr(at)hughes.net
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:05 am Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

Hi Pat



Just a quick comment and I will go back to lurking. I was stationed in

England at RAF Brize Norton for 3 years in the late 50s and early 60s and=

 I

can say for sure that the Brits paid dearly for ww2. They lost a generati=

on

of young people and many civilians on the ground but kept a stiff upper l=

ip

and fought the invasion for all their worth. They were still trying to

recover from the effects of the war 15 years later and were still hospita=

ble

to we noisey drunken GIs that were there to party. Looking back on the wh=

ole

thing and I can only say I am proud to say that we are related to the Bri=

ts

and have and are at this time fighting wars side by side even though many=

 on

both sides question the decesion to go to war.



Just to keep it Kolb related, If I build a Kolb I will mark it in British

colors.



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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

both sides question the decesion to go to war.>>

Hi,

thanks for your comments.  I will certainly agree with that one.



<<Just to keep it Kolb related, If I build a Kolb I will mark it in British 

colors.>>



What a good idea! I have gone for a red/white starburst myself. Perhaps I 

could put RAF roundels on ot.



Cheers



Pat



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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

it's entitled ISO 9000...>>>>



Sorry mate. That is lost on me but I get the drift



Pat



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GeoR38

Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 60
Location: The Villages, fl

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 4:03 am Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

In a message dated 5/19/2006 5:48:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com writes:

Hi  Robert and Ralph,



I dont want to start WW3 but when one of the German  Generals (Guderian?) was 

questioned by a reporter after the war about  which was the most significant 

battle of the war the expected answer  was  Kursk or Stalingrad. To the 

surprise of everyone the reply was  "The Battle of Britain. If we had won 

that there could have been no  invasion threat and our entire strength would 

have been turned on the  Russians and we would have won"



So I think we should consider the fact  that everyone played a part and it is 

difficult to pinpoint the most  significant contribution. It is at least a 

strong possibility that we  might have lost the Battle of Britain had it not 

been for the Poles who  fled to England and joined the RAF. They were , in 

the main, the only ones  who had actually fought the Germans. Our chaps were 

ill equipped,poorly  trained  in up to date fighting methods and were still 

flying air  display box formations against the Me109 finger four formation 

which the  Germans had perfected in Spain. Most of our guys with actual 

battle  experience were dead in France.



You could of course argue that the war  was won by Mitchell and Sidney Cam. 

If they had not produced the Spitfire  and the Hurricane???? .....We could 

not have scrambled fighters to  intercept without the invention of Radar (or 

radiolocation as we called  it) by Watson Watt.......The daylight bombing 

could not have continued  without the introduction of the Mustang



I wouldn`t for the world wish  to denigrate the part played by the U  S. and 

we were damn glad to  see you arrive in these islands but I think it is worth 

remembering   that if it wasn`t for us hanging in there, alone, there would 

have been  nowhere from which to launch an invasion . Hitler would have 

occupied all  of Europe and probably Russia and he would have been knocking 

on your door  sooner or later.

Of course Hitler committed a major mistake by declaring  war on the US. 

Without it you might habe just concentrated on the  Pacific.



What I woul like to see is an acknowledgement of the part  played by the 

British Navy in the Pacific in the face of  specific  orders by the Brit 

hating American Commander that no no help was to be  extented to the Royal 

Navy in the shape of refuelling, rearming ,re  supplying. etc . Luckily 

individual American Captains had a more  enlightened attitude.



Yes Matte, I know there were very few Kolbs in  the Battle of Britain and 

probably not many mixed up with the Sturmovics  and the whole thing is very 

`off topic` and I promise not to do it  again.



Anyone want to continue this `off list`. I love getting other  peoples point 

of view.



Cheers

Pat



do not archive  

George  Randolph



Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl 

Rotax 447, 3 blade  Ivo, KX, 1991



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GeoR38

Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 60
Location: The Villages, fl

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 4:07 am Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn!

In a message dated 5/19/2006 5:48:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com writes:

Hi  Robert and Ralph,



I dont want to start WW3 but when one of the German  Generals (Guderian?) was 

questioned by a reporter after the war about  which was the most significant 

battle of the war the expected answer  was  Kursk or Stalingrad. To the 

surprise of everyone the reply was  "The Battle of Britain. If we had won 

that there could have been no  invasion threat and our entire strength would 

have been turned on the  Russians and we would have won"



So I think we should consider the fact  that everyone played a part and it is 

difficult to pinpoint the most  significant contribution. It is at least a 

strong possibility that we  might have lost the Battle of Britain had it not 

been for the Poles who  fled to England and joined the RAF. They were , in 

the main, the only ones  who had actually fought the Germans. Our chaps were 

ill equipped,poorly  trained  in up to date fighting methods and were still 

flying air  display box formations against the Me109 finger four formation 

which the  Germans had perfected in Spain. Most of our guys with actual 

battle  experience were dead in France.



You could of course argue that the war  was won by Mitchell and Sidney Cam. 

If they had not produced the Spitfire  and the Hurricane???? .....We could 

not have scrambled fighters to  intercept without the invention of Radar (or 

radiolocation as we called  it) by Watson Watt.......The daylight bombing 

could not have continued  without the introduction of the Mustang



I wouldn`t for the world wish  to denigrate the part played by the U  S. and 

we were damn glad to  see you arrive in these islands but I think it is worth 

remembering   that if it wasn`t for us hanging in there, alone, there would 

have been  nowhere from which to launch an invasion . Hitler would have 

occupied all  of Europe and probably Russia and he would have been knocking 

on your door  sooner or later.

Of course Hitler committed a major mistake by declaring  war on the US. 

Without it you might habe just concentrated on the  Pacific.



What I woul like to see is an acknowledgement of the part  played by the 

British Navy in the Pacific in the face of  specific  orders by the Brit 

hating American Commander that no no help was to be  extented to the Royal 

Navy in the shape of refuelling, rearming ,re  supplying. etc . Luckily 

individual American Captains had a more  enlightened attitude.



Yes Matte, I know there were very few Kolbs in  the Battle of Britain and 

probably not many mixed up with the Sturmovics  and the whole thing is very 

`off topic` and I promise not to do it  again.



Anyone want to continue this `off list`. I love getting other  peoples point 

of view.



Cheers

Pat



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oooops...sorry for duplicate sending.... Pat, one thing you did not  mention 

was the time line in your dialog about the Battle of Britain. with your  

"radar" and "Spitfire" and " hurricane" assets, you had essentially whipped the  

Luftwaffte before we even declared war on Germany the Battle of Britain was  

"won" when Goring pulled his planes back out of the fray over England at the end  

of Sept 1940. That was more than a year before Dec 7 1941, when we finally 

made  full commitment. I find this an amazing fact that no one seems to talk 

about. 

Sorry I am soooo far behind on my email...only 415 to go.

George  Randolph

Firestar driver from The Villages, Fl 

Rotax 447, 3 blade  Ivo, KX, 1991



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