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David d.

Joined: 04 Jul 2011
Posts: 60
Location: Fitzgerald Ga.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:21 am Post subject: Kolb vs Flightstar

Has anyone flown and/or owned both a Flightstar and a Kolb?



Questions arise about the flight characteristics , durability, cost or repair etc.

Is it classified as a tractor type?



There seems to be lots of them listed on Barnstormers for sale.



Thanks,

David d.

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Mike Welch

Joined: 13 Feb 2011
Posts: 272

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:00 am Post subject: Kolb vs Flightstar

David,



  I haven't owned a FlightStar, but I took a dual-lesson in one.  I liked it a lot.



  The instructor asked me if I'd like to do a dead-stick landing (we were 2000' above the airport).

I said "sure, why not"?  He reaches up and turns off the engine.  That kind of shocked

me a bit.  I thought he meant...just throttle back to idle!  Nope, we wuz a glider!!!



  Since it was all up to me, because he was insistent on just being a passenger, I immediately

set up a great flight pattern, great airspeeds, and eventually, a great landing.  The FlightStar 

always was one of my favorite light-planes, and getting a lesson in one confirmed it flew very 

well, too.

 Yes, it is a tractor configuration.



  I've never been up in a two-seat Kolb, so I couldn't tell if the Kolb would have performed 

any different, but I suspect it would.  (that's why I bought one to build!!)



Mike Welch

MkIII



On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:21 AM, SS568 wrote:



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 Has anyone flown and/or owned both a Flightstar and a Kolb?

 

 Questions arise about the flight characteristics , durability, cost or repair etc.

 Is it classified as a tractor type?

 

 There seems to be lots of them listed on Barnstormers for sale.

 

 Thanks,

 David d.

 

 

 

 

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Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:04 am Post subject: Kolb vs Flightstar

I have owned three Kolbs and flown one other Kolb. I flew a FLightstar 2-seat once and was not impressed. I have heard better things about the single seat Flightstar.



  

Thom in Buffalo



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 Has anyone flown and/or owned both a Flightstar and a Kolb?

 

 Questions arise about the flight characteristics , durability, cost or repair etc.

 Is it classified as a tractor type?

 

 There seems to be lots of them listed on Barnstormers for sale.

 

 Thanks,

 David d.

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:32 am Post subject: Kolb vs Flightstar

My dead stick in a mk III was an unplanned engine out over the 

airport....a non event...My training was in sailplanes...Though I had 

electric start...I did  not try since I had the runway made... The 

engine started right up once on the ground...never had another 

problem...checked the engine over thoroughly ...  Rotax 532... Herb

At 10:57 AM 9/1/2011, you wrote:

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David,

   I haven't owned a FlightStar, but I took a dual-lesson in one.  I 

 liked it a lot.

   The instructor asked me if I'd like to do a dead-stick landing 

 (we were 2000' above the airport).

I said "sure, why not"?  He reaches up and turns off the 

engine.  That kind of shocked

me a bit.  I thought he meant...just throttle back to idle!  Nope, 

we wuz a glider!!!

   Since it was all up to me, because he was insistent on just being 

 a passenger, I immediately

set up a great flight pattern, great airspeeds, and eventually, a 

great landing.  The FlightStar

always was one of my favorite light-planes, and getting a lesson in 

one confirmed it flew very

well, too.

  Yes, it is a tractor configuration.

   I've never been up in a two-seat Kolb, so I couldn't tell if the 

 Kolb would have performed

any different, but I suspect it would.  (that's why I bought one to build!!)

Mike Welch

MkIII

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 > Is it classified as a tractor type?

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 > Thanks,

 > David d.

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 > Read this topic online here:

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joepilot503

Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 13
Location: wyoming

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb vs Flightstar

Yes,  I was trained in a flightstar 11 as a ultralight pilot & sport pilot.  It had a 60 hp HKS and it is a great plane,  I own a firestar.

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David d.

Joined: 04 Jul 2011
Posts: 60
Location: Fitzgerald Ga.

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:24 am Post subject: Re: Kolb vs Flightstar

Thanks  all for the replies and comments.



Not to get too far from "a Kolb forum".  I noticed when researching the web sites for the Flightstar, they have an electric LSA.  They used a lot of hype . I never found the specifications or flight data. It would be interesting to find the duration on one charge of electrons. I would guess they have spent a ton of money on such a project. (Kolb let someone else do the R and D.)

One area of interest would be using the wing area for Photo cells to extend the flight time.  Kinda hard to do with electric cars.



D D

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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb vs Flightstar

Years ago I put the half windows on the MKIII, climbed to 10,000 over a country airport at early evening (wore my jacket) and shut it off, played all sorts of silly games on the way down. Took awhile to descend that far. Landed dead stick, took the jacket off, started it up and flew it home. I need to do that again this summer before it gets cold.



For that matter, all of us need to do that this summer before it gets cold.



Richard Pike

MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

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