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 Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject: TKM/Michel Radios |
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I was talking with an acquaintance about radios - his ARC com/nav in his
C150 is dying (fades away when it gets warm). TKM makes a slide-in
replacement for it.
My experience is limited to Collins/King/Garmin. Anybody have any
experience with a TKM? Are they decent radios for the money? Any
problems with putting them in aging airplanes?
Chuck
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:31 am Post subject: TKM/Michel Radios |
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I recently put two of these in place of a pair of original King KX-170C's in a Cessna 172N.
I had two different problems with three different Michel radios over the last few months since install. Never any problem with getting them replaced under warranty BUT they are the slowest company I have ever dealt with. There is always a minimum one month wait (remember this is on 3 radio replacements, not insignificant experience) to get the warranty replacement. Even the company warns you about how slow they are.
I am not sure what the issue is with the factory but they are very friendly, acknowledge problems quickly, but take forever to replace them. I was warned by our avionics shop about this issue with them but they felt they were fine radios, I would have to agree.
I would not do it again. I ordered the radios through Aircraft Spruce, who were always very helpful and fast.
Ed
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Chuck Birdsall <cbirdsall(at)member.afa.org (cbirdsall(at)member.afa.org)> wrote:
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I was talking with an acquaintance about radios - his ARC com/nav in his C150 is dying (fades away when it gets warm). TKM makes a slide-in replacement for it.
My experience is limited to Collins/King/Garmin. Anybody have any experience with a TKM? Are they decent radios for the money? Any problems with putting them in aging airplanes?
Chuck
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:15 am Post subject: TKM/Michel Radios |
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I used Michel radios in a 182 I had. I felt they had good audio quality. They were reliable. I was told one possible problem guys could have was with worn out racks the new radios were put into. If the radio rack contacts are still in good shape these radios should be ok.
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I was talking with an acquaintance about radios - his ARC com/nav in his C150 is dying (fades away when it gets warm). TKM makes a slide-in replacement for it.
My experience is limited to Collins/King/Garmin. Anybody have any experience with a TKM? Are they decent radios for the money? Any problems with putting them in aging airplanes?
Chuck
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:27 am Post subject: TKM/Michel Radios |
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Chuck,
Years ago, ( around 14) I changed out my old King KX170B for the Michel MX170. It was a GREAT radio, and personally, I'd highly recommend the Michel brand products.
As a side note, I had some kind of problem with the radio several months after I got. IIRC, I bought it used on eBay, and it didn't come with a warranty. At any rate, I had to send it back to the factory. They fixed it, free of charge, and even shipped it back to me at no charge.
The repair guy told me it was a common shortcoming of the radio, and the factory felt obligated to correct the problem at no charge to the consumer.......whether it was under warranty or not.
Good radio, good people!!
BTW, when installing the newer radio, my avionics guy had to remove the old power supply that the KX170B used, plus the related wiring harness. Not an easy job, either!
The removal of the old radio and related parts, plus the appropriate FAA Paperwork cost a total of 8 hours shop time. (read that to mean 'expensive', just like any other brand of newer radio replacement). AFTER the initial installation, yes, the MX170 was a direct slide-in replacement, but you have to remove the old stuff first.
Hope this helps,
Mike Welch
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I was talking with an acquaintance about radios - his ARC com/nav in his C150 is dying (fades away when it gets warm). TKM makes a slide-in replacement for it.
My experience is limited to Collins/King/Garmin. Anybody have any experience with a TKM? Are they decent radios for the money? Any problems with putting them in aging airplanes?
Chuck
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:13 am Post subject: TKM/Michel Radios |
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Chuck,
I was a member of a flying club in Richmond, Virginia. We bought a replacement Michel radio for our Cessna 150L. It was excellent. We also own a Cessna 172 that had a replacement Michel radio. Works find.
Dee
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
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Chuck,
Years ago, ( around 14) I changed out my old King KX170B for the Michel MX170. It was a GREAT radio, and personally, I'd highly recommend the Michel brand products.
As a side note, I had some kind of problem with the radio several months after I got. IIRC, I bought it used on eBay, and it didn't come with a warranty. At any rate, I had to send it back to the factory. They fixed it, free of charge, and even shipped it back to me at no charge.
The repair guy told me it was a common shortcoming of the radio, and the factory felt obligated to correct the problem at no charge to the consumer.......whether it was under warranty or not.
Good radio, good people!!
BTW, when installing the newer radio, my avionics guy had to remove the old power supply that the KX170B used, plus the related wiring harness. Not an easy job, either!
The removal of the old radio and related parts, plus the appropriate FAA Paperwork cost a total of 8 hours shop time. (read that to mean 'expensive', just like any other brand of newer radio replacement). AFTER the initial installation, yes, the MX170 was a direct slide-in replacement, but you have to remove the old stuff first.
Hope this helps,
Mike Welch
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: TKM/Michel Radios |
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Thanks guys, 'preciate the responses.
Chuck
On 9/24/2011 2:09 PM, DeWitt (Dee) Whittington wrote: [quote]Chuck,
I was a member of a flying club in Richmond, Virginia. We bought a replacement Michel radio for our Cessna 150L. It was excellent. We also own a Cessna 172 that had a replacement Michel radio. Works find.
Dee
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
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Chuck,
Years ago, ( around 14) I changed out my old King KX170B for the Michel MX170. It was a GREAT radio, and personally, I'd highly recommend the Michel brand products.
As a side note, I had some kind of problem with the radio several months after I got. IIRC, I bought it used on eBay, and it didn't come with a warranty. At any rate, I had to send it back to the factory. They fixed it, free of charge, and even shipped it back to me at no charge.
The repair guy told me it was a common shortcoming of the radio, and the factory felt obligated to correct the problem at no charge to the consumer.......whether it was under warranty or not.
Good radio, good people!!
BTW, when installing the newer radio, my avionics guy had to remove the old power supply that the KX170B used, plus the related wiring harness. Not an easy job, either!
The removal of the old radio and related parts, plus the appropriate FAA Paperwork cost a total of 8 hours shop time. (read that to mean 'expensive', just like any other brand of newer radio replacement). AFTER the initial installation, yes, the MX170 was a direct slide-in replacement, but you have to remove the old stuff first.
Hope this helps,
Mike Welch
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> My experience is limited to Collins/King/Garmin. Anybody have any experience with a TKM? Are they decent radios for the money? Any problems with putting them in aging airplanes?
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