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rick(at)5mike3.com
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:10 pm    Post subject: Elevator assembly Reply with quote
Couple of questions for the experts:

I am attaching the elevator on my Kitfox IV.

At the end of the elevator push-rod there is a rodend that is attached
to the elevator with an AN23-15A (slotted head), this process was much
easier before the fuselage was covered.
Any downside to substituting with the equivalent size Hex bolt?

Also when attaching the elevator to the horizontal stabilizer 4 of the
6 clevis pins are not through enough for me to access the hole.
Any downside to getting a slightly longer clevis pin?

Thanks in advance.
Thanks Rick, KitFox IV 912.
90% done, 90% to go.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:03 pm    Post subject: Elevator assembly Reply with quote
On 10/10/2011 2:07 PM, Rick wrote:
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Any downside to substituting with the equivalent size Hex bolt?

On mine the hex head would poke through the fabric. It's a fun bolt to
tighten. I use a ground screwdriver inserted sideways in the slot.
Quote:

Also when attaching the elevator to the horizontal stabilizer 4 of the
6 clevis pins are not through enough for me to access the hole.
Any downside to getting a slightly longer clevis pin?

No.
Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.

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Tom Jones



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Elevator assembly Reply with quote
Rick, like Guy points out, the reason for the AN23-15A Clevis Bolt is that a hex head bolt will wear a hole in the fabric. Use an offset screw driver to install it. I think I remember using the side of the tip of a straight screw driver too.

I had to use AN960-10L (light washers) and no washers on the heads of the pins to get enough clearance for the cotter pins. If that doesn't give enough clearance you may need to file off a little bit of the outside ends of the stab side of the hinges.

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Lynn Matteson



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:10 am    Post subject: Elevator assembly Reply with quote
I used a hex bolt, and it's been going strong for over 5 years. I
couldn't see using the suggested clevis bolt, as trying to hold the
screwdriver end while tightening a nyloc nut is not much fun.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1187 hrs (since
3-27-2006)


On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Rick wrote:

Quote:


Couple of questions for the experts:

I am attaching the elevator on my Kitfox IV.

At the end of the elevator push-rod there is a rodend that is
attached to the elevator with an AN23-15A (slotted head), this
process was much easier before the fuselage was covered.
Any downside to substituting with the equivalent size Hex bolt?

Also when attaching the elevator to the horizontal stabilizer 4 of
the 6 clevis pins are not through enough for me to access the hole.
Any downside to getting a slightly longer clevis pin?

Thanks in advance.
Thanks Rick, KitFox IV 912.
90% done, 90% to go.




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Lynn Matteson



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:18 am    Post subject: Elevator assembly Reply with quote
With all this talk of wearing out the fabric, I was wracking my brain
to think why I don't have that problem....it's because I fattened out
that area when I installed ribs inside my vertical and rudder.

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1187 hrs (since
3-27-2006)
On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Tom Jones wrote:

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Rick, like Guy points out, the reason for the AN23-15A Clevis Bolt
is that a hex head bolt will wear a hole in the fabric. Use an
offset screw driver to install it. I think I remember using the
side of the tip of a straight screw driver too.

I had to use AN960-10L (light washers) and no washers on the heads
of the pins to get enough clearance for the cotter pins. If that
doesn't give enough clearance you may need to file off a little bit
of the outside ends of the stab side of the hinges.

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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA


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rick(at)5mike3.com
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:01 am    Post subject: Elevator assembly Reply with quote
Thanks to all for your input.

Looks like I will be pulling those clevis pins once again and they
don't remove easy.
--Rick

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:15:38 -0400, Lynn Matteson wrote:
Quote:


With all this talk of wearing out the fabric, I was wracking my brain
to think why I don't have that problem....it's because I fattened out
that area when I installed ribs inside my vertical and rudder.

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1187 hrs (since
3-27-2006)
On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Tom Jones wrote:

>
>
> Rick, like Guy points out, the reason for the AN23-15A Clevis Bolt
> is that a hex head bolt will wear a hole in the fabric. Use an
> offset screw driver to install it. I think I remember using the side
> of the tip of a straight screw driver too.
>
> I had to use AN960-10L (light washers) and no washers on the heads
> of the pins to get enough clearance for the cotter pins. If that
> doesn't give enough clearance you may need to file off a little bit
> of the outside ends of the stab side of the hinges.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354611#354611
>
>


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