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Entry to Belgium and the Channel Islands

 
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sidsel.svein(at)oslo.onli
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:13 am    Post subject: Entry to Belgium and the Channel Islands Reply with quote
David,

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>I am in the middle of complaining to the Belgian government and EASA about it, having refused to pay, and in the hope of bringing them into line with the rest of Europe. <<

Very good, David. Stephan and I each parted with €80 to fly along the Belgian coastline to/from Popham this summer. Hope to avoid it next time!

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>Have you seen the Guide to Flying in Europe which details which countries demand PPR- copy attached?<<

The Channel Islands are listed as non-PPR. This is correct only for UK-registered aircraft operating on Permit to Fly. For non-UK aircraft the approval/permission is from the Director of Civil Aviation, who can be contacted by email on: dca(at)gov.je. Stephan and I got permissions this way (quickly, friendly and at no charge) both for Jersey and Guernsey, but poor weather before and after Popham forced us to cancel visits to these nice islands.

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Svein Johnsen
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frans(at)privatepilots.nl
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:55 am    Post subject: Entry to Belgium and the Channel Islands Reply with quote
On 10/07/2011 01:09 PM, Sidsel & Svein Johnsen wrote:

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Very good, David. Stephan and I each parted with €80 to fly along
the Belgian coastline to/from Popham this summer. Hope to avoid it
next time!

We are regularly overflying Belgium (and always announcing in the flight
plan and to Brussels info that aircraft type is EUPA) but never bothered
about it, never got even the slightest hint that we should obtain a
special permit and never heard of any other Dutch pilot who payed 80 Euro's.

Frans

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davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:23 am    Post subject: Entry to Belgium and the Channel Islands Reply with quote
Frans, Absolutely - you can get away with it, as I have on many occasions
with many other Europa friends. However extensive correspondence with the
Belgian CAA both by our LAA and personally has them insisting that it is
necessary to seek permission before flying a home built through Belgian
airspace. I only sought permission on one occasion when I was entering the
Dawn to Dusk Challenge and vesting all of Wellington's battle sites, and for
that you are required to sign to say that you have not broken any
regulations. The bill for 80+ euros was an unpleasant surprise! which I am
fighting. You have to assume that the FPL people and air traffic have better
things to do than sort through the small print of the regulations, but quite
what would happen if you have an 'incident' is another matter!
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
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