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Garmin 430 to 430W Differences

 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:20 am    Post subject: Garmin 430 to 430W Differences Reply with quote

A friend of mine has sold his Garmin 430 because he got a good deal on a 430W.
He needs to change the GPS antenna and possibly its cable if it
doesn't match the new spec.

I looked through the manuals to see what differences there might be in
the pinouts. There are few and of little consequence. None are
connected in the certified installation in my Cessna 172.

I offer the list here in case anyone is interested.

Jeff Page
Dream Aircraft Tundra #10
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN GARMIN GNS-400 AND GNS-400W

P4001
Pin 8 400: Auto Annunciate 400W: Spare Annunciate
Pin 12 400: not implimented 400W: Altitude Alarm Annunciate
Pin 13 400: Annunciate F 400W: GPS Select
Pin 37 400: not implimented 400W: Audio 1 Hi
Pin 38 400: not implimented 400W: Audio 1 Lo (gnd)
Pin 74 400: Reserved 400W: Com Remote Recall

P4002
No differences

P4006
No differences


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:22 am    Post subject: Garmin 430 to 430W Differences Reply with quote

Jeff,

Several years ago I had a 530 and a 430 upgraded to WAAS capability (530W & 430W). With the new capability came a pair of new antennas, new antenna cables and the admonition NOT to cut the cable length. The whole system was very finely tuned and to ensure the accuracy in positioning required for instrument work the new hardware must be used as provided. My Garmin units were in the instrument panel and the antenna installed on top of the panel so I had to carefully roll up the 15' of RG-400 cable for each unit so it would fit inside the instrument panel.

So, yes, he has to change the antenna and cable and ensure it all meets Garmin specs if he is to do it "by the book."

Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger(at)mac.com

On Nov 16, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Jeff Page wrote:

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A friend of mine has sold his Garmin 430 because he got a good deal on a 430W.
He needs to change the GPS antenna and possibly its cable if it doesn't match the new spec.

I looked through the manuals to see what differences there might be in the pinouts. There are few and of little consequence. None are connected in the certified installation in my Cessna 172.

I offer the list here in case anyone is interested.

Jeff Page
Dream Aircraft Tundra #10


DIFFERENCES BETWEEN GARMIN GNS-400 AND GNS-400W

P4001
Pin 8 400: Auto Annunciate 400W: Spare Annunciate
Pin 12 400: not implimented 400W: Altitude Alarm Annunciate
Pin 13 400: Annunciate F 400W: GPS Select
Pin 37 400: not implimented 400W: Audio 1 Hi
Pin 38 400: not implimented 400W: Audio 1 Lo (gnd)
Pin 74 400: Reserved 400W: Com Remote Recall

P4002
No differences

P4006
No differences


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:03 am    Post subject: Garmin 430 to 430W Differences Reply with quote

Robert,

Page 3-9 of the Garmin 400W Series Installation Manual 190-00356-02
discusses the minimum and maximum cable loss permissible, and how
connectors and cable length influence cable loss. I found no mention
of requirements to maintain a specific cable length.

With your GPS antenna on the glareshield, a direct connection would
definitely have been too short.

Jeff

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Time: 06:22:29 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin 430 to 430W Differences
From: Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com>
Jeff,

Several years ago I had a 530 and a 430 upgraded to WAAS capability
(530W & 430W).
With the new capability came a pair of new antennas, new antenna cables and
the admonition NOT to cut the cable length. The whole system was very finely
tuned and to ensure the accuracy in positioning required for instrument work
the new hardware must be used as provided. My Garmin units were in
the instrument
panel and the antenna installed on top of the panel so I had to carefully
roll up the 15' of RG-400 cable for each unit so it would fit inside
the instrument
panel.

So, yes, he has to change the antenna and cable and ensure it all
meets Garmin
specs if he is to do it "by the book."

Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger(at)mac.com


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