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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:54 am Post subject: Everyone wants Map subscriptions...

It's been amazing to watch the last few years as subscription

based pricing takes over the world as vendors rush to

find a way to keep their hands in your pockets.  It's not

just in aviation.



I've used Navigon (US and Canada) for turn-by-turn direction

maps on my iphone and ipad for a while now. When I bought it,

it was not a super cheap app, but the policy was lifetime

map updates.



Well, guess who buys them....Garmin.  Now, suddenly, if you

allow your iphone/ipad to be upgraded to the new 2.0 release

of the app, your stuck in a $15/quarter map subscription

program....so the app that maybe cost $60 forever, is now

$60/year.  That doesn't sound like Garmin, does it?



Something tells me that with the advent of such pricing

schemes, and the loss of government flight data for

free, is going to bring a lot of drivers and pilots to

just simply not care about flying or driving with updated

maps and charts.



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Albert Gardner

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 455
Location: Yuma, AZ

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject: Everyone wants Map subscriptions...

In conjunction with Oshkosh this year I thought I'd fly to the portion of

the 48 states I had not been to as well as see some of the ones I had. My

RV-10 has a Garmin 496 for navigation and weather. As I was getting ready to

order the sectionals I would need my wife surprised me with an ipad. I added

the Bad Elf GPS to it and subscribed to Foreflight VFR and Flight Guides e

version. At Oshkosh I upgraded the 496 database and headed out. The ipad was

great and didn't take too long to be comfortable with switching from charts

to airport diagrams as necessary. I already had mobile hotspot which was

very handy as wifi wasn't always available to check weather on the ground.

After that trip this is my conclusion as to what's necessary for VFR flight:

  GPS: Very Necessary, for navigation either the Garmin or the ipad was OK

but ipad was easier to keep current and upgrades were cheaper. The 496 fed

the autopilot however. The ipad moving map was very nice, names of towns,

lakes, etc.

  Charts: the electronic charts are invaluable, always current and

available.

  Weather: In flight Garmin 496 weather was OK but the ipad was better

especially for planning.

  Airport Info: Not happy with the FAA A/FD on Foreflight, much prefer

Flight Guides offering.



In short, I am sold on the ipad although I haven't figured out where to put

it, for now it lays in the seat or is held by someone else. It's a hands-on

device so it needs to be near. I like the Foreflight app but several friends

use WingX and are sold on it. For VFR I don't see that one has much

advantage over the other. Flight Guide is adding moving map and weather I

understand and I like the ipad app far, far better than  their new larger

paper diagrams. I think we could easily overload ourselves with gadgets even

if they are neat as hell but VFR flying was done for years with little more

than a compass and highway map.



For me, minimum equipment is ipad with GPS and an app with charts, airport

info and weather. As a bonus I loaded the Pilots Operating Handbook on the

ipad.

Albert Gardner

N991RV

Yuma, AZ

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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:43 pm Post subject: Everyone wants Map subscriptions...

now that is what I call a trip! What is that, 8,000 miles?

Robin



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Albert Gardner

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 455
Location: Yuma, AZ

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:03 pm Post subject: Everyone wants Map subscriptions...

9800 and 89 hrs, all of it much fun and lots of weather in the east. 

Albert






now that is what I call a trip! What is that, 8,000 miles?

Robin



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