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 Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:43 am Post subject: Cheetha or Tiger |
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Hello everyone,
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I am from Austria and plan to buy me a Grumman.
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Now arises only you question whether a "Tiger" or "Cheetha" ???
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The home airfield would a grass runway, with 1600ft length have (this is grass runway fastened with plastic sheets)
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I would be the takeoff and climb performance interest.
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The aircraft would be operated max loaded with 2 people. And with fuel for max 3-4 hours.
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Can you give me to provide information which take-off distance required approximately and with how many ft / min, the aircraft then rises.
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with best regards
and a Happy New Year
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:23 am Post subject: Cheetha or Tiger |
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I fly a Tiger that could fly out of a 1600 ft field at 2400 pounds but that is very short for most airplanes. The Cheetah would probably need the 160 hp STC minimum. You can download a Pilot Operating Handbook for free if you search. Look on American Yankee Association website.
Chris
On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Stefan Lang <stefan.lang(at)gmx.at (stefan.lang(at)gmx.at)> wrote:
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Hello everyone,
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I am from Austria and plan to buy me a Grumman.
Â
Now arises only you question whether a "Tiger" or "Cheetha" ???
Â
The home airfield would a grass runway, with 1600ft length have (this is grass runway fastened with plastic sheets)
Â
I would be the takeoff and climb performance interest.
Â
The aircraft would be operated max loaded with 2 people. And with fuel for max 3-4 hours.
Â
Can you give me to provide information which take-off distance required approximately and with how many ft / min, the aircraft then rises.
Â
with best regards
and a Happy New Year
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:17 pm Post subject: Cheetha or Tiger |
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http://www.flyslipstream.com/Grumman_Cheetah_AA-5A_POH.pdf
This is an AA5A POH. Â Page 5-14 has take off data and Figure 5-14 has landing data.
On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Chris Sims <hcsims1(at)gmail.com (hcsims1(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]I fly a Tiger that could fly out of a 1600 ft field at 2400 pounds but that is very short for most airplanes. The Cheetah would probably need the 160 hp STC minimum. You can download a Pilot Operating Handbook for free if you search. Look on American Yankee Association website.
Chris
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| Quote: | --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Stefan Lang" <stefan.lang(at)gmx.at>
Hello everyone,
Â
I am from Austria and plan to buy me a Grumman.
Â
Now arises only you question whether a "Tiger" or "Cheetha" ???
Â
The home airfield would a grass runway, with 1600ft length have (this is grass runway fastened with plastic sheets)
Â
I would be the takeoff and climb performance interest.
Â
The aircraft would be operated max loaded with 2 people. And with fuel for max 3-4 hours.
Â
Can you give me to provide information which take-off distance required approximately and with how many ft / min, the aircraft then rises.
Â
with best regards
and a Happy New Year
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br> fts!)
r> > com" target="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com
w.buildersbooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
p.com" target="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
e.com" target="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com
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target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:34 pm Post subject: Cheetha or Tiger |
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I routinely fly my Tiger out of a 2600 ft grass field with no problems but don't know how comfortable I would be on 1600 ft. Landing on such a short field with even just a moderate crosswind would probably send my pucker factor up a few notches.
Claude from my iPhone 6 plus
On Dec 25, 2014, at 16:17, Chris Sims <hcsims1(at)gmail.com (hcsims1(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]http://www.flyslipstream.com/Grumman_Cheetah_AA-5A_POH.pdf
This is an AA5A POH. Page 5-14 has take off data and Figure 5-14 has landing data.
On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Chris Sims <hcsims1(at)gmail.com (hcsims1(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I fly a Tiger that could fly out of a 1600 ft field at 2400 pounds but that is very short for most airplanes. The Cheetah would probably need the 160 hp STC minimum. You can download a Pilot Operating Handbook for free if you search. Look on American Yankee Association website.
Chris
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:36 am Post subject: Cheetha or Tiger |
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This attachment shows "BOOK" numbers to be taken with a optimistic outlook, AOPA recommends adding 50% for takeoff ..1600 , Seems like that would be very tight , if you are operating High Density Altitudes
http://www.grumman.net/cgrcc/specs.html
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:24 am Post subject: Cheetha or Tiger |
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Grumman Guru Ken Blackman has a lot of experience operating Grummans in and out of short runways. You can contact him here: guru(at)airmodsnw.com (guru(at)airmodsnw.com) Be sure to include the altitude of the operating area in your discussion as it can make a huge difference.
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Subject: Cheetha or Tiger
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 17:42:37 +0100
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Stefan Lang" <stefan.lang(at)gmx.at>
Hello everyone,
I am from Austria and plan to buy me a Grumman.
Now arises only you question whether a "Tiger" or "Cheetha" ???
The home airfield would a grass runway, with 1600ft length have (this is grass runway fastened with plastic sheets)
I would be the takeoff and climb performance interest.
The aircraft would be operated max loaded with 2 people. And with fuel for max 3-4 hours.
Can you give me to provide information which take-off distance required approximately and with how many ft / min, the aircraft then rises.
with best regards
and a Happy ====
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:32 am Post subject: Cheetha or Tiger |
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My personal minimum field length is 1800 ft in Tiger (with no appreciable obstacles at either end).
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Claude Allen
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Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cheetha or Tiger
I routinely fly my Tiger out of a 2600 ft grass field with no problems but don't know how comfortable I would be on 1600 ft. Landing on such a short field with even just a moderate crosswind would probably send my pucker factor up a few notches.
Claude from my iPhone 6 plus
On Dec 25, 2014, at 16:17, Chris Sims <hcsims1(at)gmail.com (hcsims1(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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http://www.flyslipstream.com/Grumman_Cheetah_AA-5A_POH.pdf
This is an AA5A POH. Page 5-14 has take off data and Figure 5-14 has landing data.
On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Chris Sims <hcsims1(at)gmail.com (hcsims1(at)gmail.com)> wrote: | Quote: |
I fly a Tiger that could fly out of a 1600 ft field at 2400 pounds but that is very short for most airplanes. The Cheetah would probably need the 160 hp STC minimum. You can download a Pilot Operating Handbook for free if you search. Look on American Yankee Association website.
Chris
On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Stefan Lang <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,\'cvml\',\'stefan.lang(at)gmx.at\');]stefan.lang(at)gmx.at[/url]> wrote:
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:29 pm Post subject: Cheetha or Tiger |
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I’m sure either one would work well. Personally, I don’t fly out of grass strips because of the wheel pants. But, then, I baby my plane and anything rough is a no-no for me.
Gary
| Quote: | On Dec 25, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Stefan Lang <stefan.lang(at)gmx.at> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I am from Austria and plan to buy me a Grumman.
Now arises only you question whether a "Tiger" or "Cheetha" ???
The home airfield would a grass runway, with 1600ft length have (this is grass runway fastened with plastic sheets)
I would be the takeoff and climb performance interest.
The aircraft would be operated max loaded with 2 people. And with fuel for max 3-4 hours.
Can you give me to provide information which take-off distance required approximately and with how many ft / min, the aircraft then rises.
with best regards
and a Happy New Year
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