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Rcaprd(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: Fiberglass / Epoxy NO Paint

Here's something I've been wanting to try for a long time:

 I just ordered some Epoxy Premium Pigment from AS&S.  

 Prep the plywood on the wing, use 1080 deck cloth with straight resin, while still tacky - squeegee resin with micro-balloons and Epoxy Pigment, then I'm going to use this stuff in the last two layers of West System 105 Resin /  206 Hardener, and if I can get to flow & look flat and glossy, I'm  NOT  going to paint the wing.

  

 So...waddya think ???

  

 Chuck Gantzer

 NX770CG

gptailwind(at)msn.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:21 am Post subject: Fiberglass / Epoxy NO Paint

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Chuck-- You may not need the micro balloons. Gordon 9168Q

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dan42101(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: Fiberglass / Epoxy NO Paint

Chuck,

  Sounds like a lot to do before it sets up on you.  You made need helpers and cold weather...

  -Dan



Rcaprd(at)aol.com wrote:

   	  Quote: 	
		      Here's something I've been wanting to try for a long time:

  I just ordered some Epoxy Premium Pigment from AS&S.  

  Prep the plywood on the wing, use 1080 deck cloth with straight resin, while still tacky - squeegee resin with micro-balloons and Epoxy Pigment, then I'm going to use this stuff in the last two layers of West System 105 Resin /  206 Hardener, and if I can get to flow & look flat and glossy, I'm  NOT  going to paint the wing.

   

  So...waddya think ???

   

  Chuck Gantzer

   NX770CG

	
  

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Rcaprd(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: Fiberglass / Epoxy NO Paint

In a message dated 1/21/2006 1:21:46 PM Central Standard Time, gptailwind(at)msn.com writes:

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		  Chuck-- You may not need the micro balloons. Gordon 9168Q 	


 Gordon,

 The reason for the micro balloons is to fill the weave, after the cloth is applied with straight epoxy.  The final 2 coats will not have micro balloons in it.

  

 Chuck G.

 NX770CG

Rcaprd(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: Fiberglass / Epoxy NO Paint

In a message dated 1/21/2006 4:34:28 PM Central Standard Time, dan42101(at)yahoo.com writes:

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		   Chuck,

 Sounds like a lot to do before it sets up on you.  You made need helpers and cold weather...

 -Dan

	


 Dan,

 The only thing different in the process, is that the epoxy will have some white pigment in it.  Cloth will be applied without any pigment.

  

 Chuck G.

 NX770CG

dan42101(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: Fiberglass / Epoxy NO Paint

Chuck,

  If you don't get any poo poos about the modus operandi from the ones who have done it... take pictures!  The rest of us will be grateful.

  -Dan



Rcaprd(at)aol.com wrote:

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		        In a message dated 1/21/2006 4:34:28 PM Central Standard Time, dan42101(at)yahoo.com writes:

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		    Chuck,

  Sounds like a lot to do before it sets up on you.  You made need helpers and cold weather...

  -Dan

	


  Dan,

  The only thing different in the process, is that the epoxy will have some white pigment in it.  Cloth will be applied without any pigment.  

    

  Chuck G.

  NX770CG

	
  

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IslPilot(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: Fiberglass / Epoxy NO Paint

I have played with pigment in the epoxy and it is not opaque enough.   At a certain point you start to lose some strength with the large quantity of  pigment trying to get it opaque.  

  

 Try a small sample first on some test pieces and see what happens.

  

 Paul

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IslPilot(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: Fiberglass / Epoxy NO Paint

Also remember that the epoxy needs to be protected from the UV and I don't  believe the pigment will be enough.  If you call Gougeon, and ask for a  Tech Rep they will give you their opinion.  They have been very supportive  in not laughing at some of my ideas.

  

 Paul

Paul F. Baron

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mytyweav(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: Fiberglass / Epoxy NO Paint

Chuck, you are wasting your time. It will not work and you will have to

paint regardless. Apparently, You are reading too much into the hype of

marketing and sales from AS&S. Do yourself a favor and forget the idea and

just use good epoxy and glass to finish the surface of your wing. Then,

apply a good primer for the paint you intend to use. Over the years, you

will be glad you took the time to do it right.

Weav



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From: Danny dan42101(at)yahoo.com

Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:33:17 -0800 (PST)

To: tailwind-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Fiberglass / Epoxy         NO Paint

Chuck,

  Sounds like a lot to do before it sets up on you.  You made need helpers

and cold weather...

  -Dan



Rcaprd(at)aol.com wrote:

      Here's something I've been wanting to try for a long time:

  I just ordered some Epoxy Premium Pigment from AS&S.  

  Prep the plywood on the wing, use 1080 deck cloth with straight resin,

while still tacky - squeegee resin with micro-balloons and Epoxy Pigment,

then I'm going to use this stuff in the last two layers of West System 105

Resin /  206 Hardener, and if I can get to flow & look flat and glossy, I'm

NOT  going to paint the wing.

   

  So...waddya think ???

   

  Chuck Gantzer

  NX770CG

  

			

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Rcaprd(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: Fiberglass / Epoxy NO Paint

In a message dated 1/21/2006 10:46:12 PM Central Standard Time, IslPilot(at)aol.com writes:

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		  Also remember that the epoxy needs to be protected from the UV and I don't believe the pigment will be enough. 	


 Paul,

 I found my copy of the West System User Manual, and it says the same thing you did...the pigment will NOT be enough to protect the epoxy from UV rays.

 So much for the No Paint idea...

 Thank you all for your responses.

  

 Chuck G.

 NX770CG

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