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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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 Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:59 am Post subject: Server crash |
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Folks,
The Matronics hardware suite suffered some major
problems Saturday . . . Matt has some patches running
to keep things running (mirror to another server).
If you didn't make a contribution to the service
during the 'normal' fundraising activity, please
consider making one now. The electro-whizzies that
make all this work for us don't come off
the local thrift store's appliance shelves . . .
Bob . . .
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wgreenley
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:18 am Post subject: Server crash |
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Good idea, but it looks like donations will have to wait until after
the servers are back online.
Bill
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III
<nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com> wrote:
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<nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>
Folks,
The Matronics hardware suite suffered some major
problems Saturday . . . Matt has some patches running
to keep things running (mirror to another server).
If you didn't make a contribution to the service
during the 'normal' fundraising activity, please
consider making one now. The electro-whizzies that
make all this work for us don't come off
the local thrift store's appliance shelves . . .
Bob . . .
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ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:19 am Post subject: Server crash |
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It would be cheaper and more reliable to simply run the lists from a commercial server.
Ralph Finch
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
[quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>
Folks,
The Matronics hardware suite suffered some major
problems Saturday . . . Matt has some patches running
to keep things running (mirror to another server).
If you didn't make a contribution to the service
during the 'normal' fundraising activity, please
consider making one now. The electro-whizzies that
make all this work for us don't come off
the local thrift store's appliance shelves . . .
Bob . . .
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Matt Dralle
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:34 am Post subject: Server crash |
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Maybe cheaper, but probably not. And certainly not as secure and flexible. I do IT architecture and design for a living and the system that supports the Matronics Lists is built to those same standards. For example, dedicated environmental control, battery backups, redundancy where practical, daily data backups, and commercial-grade connectivity. For a relatively small operation, the Matronics systems are a lot more "commercial" than most small to medium business installations I've seen. That being said, its not always economically feasible to have a "spare" of everything and sometimes the unforeseen and unfortunate happens. In the 20+ years I've been managing these List services this way, there have only been a couple of substantial outages and from what I've seen in the industry, that's a pretty good track record.
Rest assured, I'm am doing everything possible to restore service as quickly as possible.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
At 08:16 AM 12/4/2011 Sunday, you wrote:
| Quote: | It would be cheaper and more reliable to simply run the lists from a commercial server.
Ralph Finch
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <<mailto:nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com> wrote:
Folks,
The Matronics hardware suite suffered some major
problems Saturday . . . Matt has some patches running
to keep things running (mirror to another server).
If you didn't make a contribution to the service
during the 'normal' fundraising activity, please
consider making one now. The electro-whizzies that
make all this work for us don't come off
the local thrift store's appliance shelves . . .
Bob . . .
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deej(at)deej.net
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:49 am Post subject: Server crash |
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On 12/4/2011 11:16 AM, Ralph Finch wrote:
| Quote: | It would be cheaper and more reliable to simply run the lists from a
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Over the long haul it is typically not cheaper to rent commercial
servers. Over the past 12+ years or so that I've been on the lists, I
can only remember one other time that there were issues, so I'd say they
are pretty reliable. Given that the email interface is still up and
running tells me that Matt has a pretty robust configuration.
I also maintain a personal server for mailing lists/Wikis/web
forums for New England pilots and I can attest that at times it is a
thankless job. Like Matt, I do it because of my interest in aviation.
Unlike Matt, I don't ask for, and do not accept donations. I cover all
costs and do it simply as my way of giving back to the aviation
community. Given that Matt doesn't *require* payment to participate,
I'd say he has setup an excellent system that works for everyone. If
you want to help out by donating, you can, but if you don't want to, you
don't have to and no one is going to give you a hard time about it.
IMHO he is doing an excellent job.
-Dj
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Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:30 am Post subject: Server crash |
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For a handful of low-volume, non-critical email lists such as the Matronics Lists, a generic commercial hosting system would be cheaper and easier...if the alternative was to set up a complete hardware/software system from scratch. But clearly Matt already has a system in place for other purposes so it makes sense to put the Matronics Lists on that system.
As for the outage itself, I'm not complaining. I didn't even notice it. I appreciate the Lists but like another commenter run a website/email lists for a local airport group and don't get always get compensation, financial or otherwise. It's a volunteer activity and I'm glad to do it, most of the time. I use a commercial web host (hostmonster.com) and it works great.
RF
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)> wrote:
[quote] --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>
Maybe cheaper, but probably not. And certainly not as secure and flexible. I do IT architecture and design for a living and the system that supports the Matronics Lists is built to those same standards. For example, dedicated environmental control, battery backups, redundancy where practical, daily data backups, and commercial-grade connectivity. For a relatively small operation, the Matronics systems are a lot more "commercial" than most small to medium business installations I've seen. That being said, its not always economically feasible to have a "spare" of everything and sometimes the unforeseen and unfortunate happens. In the 20+ years I've been managing these List services this way, there have only been a couple of substantial outages and from what I've seen in the industry, that's a pretty good track record.
Rest assured, I'm am doing everything possible to restore service as quickly as possible.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
At 08:16 AM 12/4/2011 Sunday, you wrote:
>It would be cheaper and more reliable to simply run the lists from a commercial server.
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>Ralph Finch
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>On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <<mailto:nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <<mailto:nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>
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>Folks,
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>The Matronics hardware suite suffered some major
>problems Saturday . . . Matt has some patches running
>to keep things running (mirror to another server).
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>If you didn't make a contribution to the service
>during the 'normal' fundraising activity, please
>consider making one now. The electro-whizzies that
>make all this work for us don't come off
>the local thrift store's appliance shelves . . .
>
>
> Bob . . .
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dsherburn
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:43 am Post subject: Server crash |
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I can't imagine the time, money and effort that goes into this kind of an
effort. Speaking from the standpoint of a casual user, I appreciate
the list and the ability to take advantge of the advice and consulting that
goes with being able to access a service like this.
Thanks for the effort, Matt (and all)!
Dan
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