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brian
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 643 Location: Sacramento, California, USA
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:42 am Post subject: What is essential (was: Z11 architecture question) |
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On May 25, 2006, at 5:31 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
Quote: | Better yet . . . pitch the pump, install an SD8 and have
UNLIMITED endurance under e-bus ops with 100% of battery retained
for approach to landing. But in any case, we craft to avoid
needing words like emergency, essential, critical, etc. etc.
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Po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to.
What it boils down to is being able to point to certain devices and
say, "I *really* want that thing to keep working until I get back on
the ground." Whether you consider that thing to be 'essential', an
'endurance' item, or loss of that item to be an 'emergency', is of no
real import. You think it is important and you take steps to ensure
it keeps working.
The real kicker is that most people don't really think about the
difference between essential and desirable. I suspect that a lot of
people put things on the e-bus that don't belong there. Let me give
some examples. I would be willing to bet that there are a LOT of e-
busses with the transponder and comm radio connected. If you think
about it, the transponder is really for the benefit of ATC, not you.
I can get to my destination very comfortably if my transponder quits
so it is NOT an essential item. Likewise with a comm radio. Sure it
is nice to be able to talk to ATC and other aircraft but loss of comm
will not pose a danger to my continued safe flight.
OTOH loss of my attitude instrument or my overall navigation
capability is a serious handicap when under IFR conditions. Either of
those events would constitute an emergency in my book. When flying
under VFR conditions only the loss of an engine would really
constitute an emergency so if you have an electronic ignition, it
would probably come under the heading of "essential".
Here are some things I consider to be nonessential:
* landing lights
* pitot heat
* airspeed indicator (unless the attitude indicator fails while under
IFR)
* needle-ball (unless the attitude indicator fails while under IFR)
* comm radio
* transponder
* position lights
* electric fuel pump (assuming the aircraft has a mechanical fuel
pump that normally works)
Someone mentioned landing lights. IMHO they are, for the most part,
superfluous. I had an airplane that had only one landing light and it
was notorious for having it burn out. (The light was in the cowl and
I suspect suffered from too much vibration.) I just got used to
landing without a landing light. In fact, I got so I preferred it and
just stopped using it during landing. (Of course the airports had
runway lights.) I would only turn it on to taxi once I got on the
ground. And there were times when I taxied by holding my flashlight
outside the window to see where I was going.
(And I would love to debate the need for an airspeed indicator.)
Getting back to the issue at hand, here are some things I consider to
be essential:
* stuff that keeps the engine running and makes all the fuel
available for use. (There are a number of airplanes at the bottom of
the ocean because an electric fuel transfer pump failed which made a
big portion of the fuel unavailable to the engine.)
* attitude indicator (IFR)
* altimeter
* basic radio navigation, VOR/ILS and perhaps GPS (IFR)
* compass
If you think about this for awhile you will probably come to the
conclusion that there isn't a lot that you *really* need.
But most devices have on/off switches. Frankly, I would probably go
ahead and attach my transponder and comm radio to the e-bus. I can
always turn them off to conserve necessary energy in the battery or
to stay within the capacity of my backup power source. But the pitot
heat and landing light certainly don't belong on the e-bus.
When something breaks it is up to the pilot to make decisions and
reconfigure the aircraft for continued safe flight. If that means
turning off some devices, no problem. Going to extreme lengths to
make things happen automatically is probably counterproductive as you
are going to end up adding complexity which makes for more possible
points of failure. Keeping the systems in your airplane simple is
going to go a long way toward making it more reliable. The critical
point is to ensure that there is no single point of failure that will
make you very uncomfortable or unable to continue your flight safely.
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak AT lloyd DOT com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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bakerocb
Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 727 Location: FAIRFAX VA
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: What is essential (was: Z11 architecture question) |
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Responding to an AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: Brian Lloyd
<brian-yak(at)lloyd.com>
Hello Brian,
You wrote: "....skip.....I can get to my destination very comfortably if my
transponder quits so it is NOT an essential item.....skip..."
Not true if your destination is inside the Washington DC ADIZ.
You wrote: "...skip.... But most devices have on/off switches. Frankly, I
would probably go
ahead and attach my transponder and comm radio to the e-bus. I can
always turn them off to conserve necessary energy in the battery or
to stay within the capacity of my backup power source.....skip....."
Good solution.
OC
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brian
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 643 Location: Sacramento, California, USA
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: What is essential (was: Z11 architecture question) |
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On May 26, 2006, at 8:14 PM, <bakerocb(at)cox.net> <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
wrote:
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Responding to an AeroElectric-List message previously posted by:
Brian Lloyd
<brian-yak(at)lloyd.com>
Hello Brian,
You wrote: "....skip.....I can get to my destination very
comfortably if my
transponder quits so it is NOT an essential item.....skip..."
Not true if your destination is inside the Washington DC ADIZ.
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Perhaps not in that case, but that is about the only place.
OTOH, if you are on an IFR flight plan in IMC and you lose your
transponder and your comm, the regs say you should proceed to your
destination, hold, and then shoot the approach at your scheduled
arrival time. That rule hasn't changed so if your destination is in
the Washington, DC, ADIZ, the right answer is to proceed following
your flight plan, transponder or no transponder. Don't worry; they'll
keep an eye out for you.
Quote: |
You wrote: "...skip.... But most devices have on/off switches.
Frankly, I
would probably go
ahead and attach my transponder and comm radio to the e-bus. I can
always turn them off to conserve necessary energy in the battery or
to stay within the capacity of my backup power source.....skip....."
Good solution.
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But the point still stands. Many things that people think are
essential are really only just very desirable and not essential at
all. Case in point, I recently had a student who spent most of his
time chasing airspeed so I finally just covered up his airspeed
indicator and made him fly an entire lesson without any ASI. He
smoothed right out and started flying pitch and power. When I would
let him steal a look at the ASI he invariably found he was within 5
kts of his target airspeed. Most people think that the ASI is a
critical instrument and it really isn't (provided you know your
airplane). What else might fall into that category?
(I would much rather have AoA than ASI any day of the week.)
Brian Lloyd 361 Catterline Way
brian-yak AT lloyd DOT com Folsom, CA 95630
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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