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philperry9
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? |
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No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of the gear mounts).
Photo of the mount is here:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg
I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts and putting the nuts on top.
Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts installed? If so - how?
BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss anything critical.
Phil
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:40 pm Post subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? |
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Can you borrow a neighbor kid to hold a wrench? Use masking tape on the closed end of the 3/8 wrench? I think I just used my girly hands...
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:49 pm Post subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? |
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You know what they say little hands little .............
Geoff Combs
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Can you borrow a neighbor kid to hold a wrench? Use masking tape on the closed end of the 3/8 wrench? I think I just used my girly hands...
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:54 pm Post subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? |
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Use a dab of fuel lube or any other sticky substance on your finger tip to hold the nut so you can hold it on the end of the bolt threads while you get the nut started.I remember those to be very tricky, but it can be done.
David Leikam
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On Dec 22, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Phillip Perry wrote:
[quote]No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of the gear mounts).
Photo of the mount is here:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg
I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts and putting the nuts on top.
Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts installed? If so - how?
BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss anything critical.
Phil
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:13 pm Post subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? |
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latex gloves?
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:14 pm Post subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? |
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remove the side cover panel and it becomes pretty easy to access three of the 4... the other has to be approached from the center inward and doesn't have the same issues.
Jeff Carpenter
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On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Phillip Perry wrote:
[quote]No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of the gear mounts).
Photo of the mount is here:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg
I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts and putting the nuts on top.
Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts installed? If so - how?
BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss anything critical.
Phil
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:06 pm Post subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? |
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Also if I may, I can't find the bolt size in the manual. I gather that they are AN3-4A's does this sound correct?Regards, Andrew Long www.ozrv10.com > remove the side cover panel and it becomes pretty easy to access three > of the 4... the other has to be approached from the center inward and > doesn't have the same issues. > > Jeff Carpenter > 40304 > > > On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: > >> No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to >> install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of >> the gear mounts). >> >> Photo of the mount is here: >> http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg >> >> I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts >> and putting the nuts on top. >> >> Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts >> installed? If so - how? >> >> BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, >> washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and >> I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss >> anything critical. >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> >> >> > > [quote][b]
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:30 pm Post subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? |
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Use masking tape to tape the nut and washer to your first or middle finger. Cut a hole in the tape so the bolt can penetrate and get started. Another way is to tape the not in a cloase end wrench.
G. Hank Nolin, P.E.
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From: Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
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Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 5:30 PM
No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of the gear mounts).
Photo of the mount is here:
[url=http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg]http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg
I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts and putting the nuts on top.
Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts installed? If so - how?
BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss anything critical.
Phil
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? |
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4A's is what I came up with too.
I have no idea why the plans tell you to leave them off. If I had it to do again, I wouldn't do that.
My hands are simply too big to get in there.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 22, 2011, at 7:03 PM, "Andrew Long" <along(at)aanet.com.au (along(at)aanet.com.au)> wrote:
[quote]Also if I may, I can't find the bolt size in the manual. I gather that they are AN3-4A's does this sound correct?
Regards,
Andrew Long
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of the 4... the other has to be approached from the center inward and
doesn't have the same issues.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Phillip Perry wrote:
> No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to
> install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of
> the gear mounts).
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> Photo of the mount is here:
> http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg
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> I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts
> and putting the nuts on top.
>
> Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts
> installed? If so - how?
>
> BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut,
> washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and
> I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss
> anything critical.
>
> Phil
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts? |
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Far easier and quicker to lay a short piece of masking tape sticky side up on a box-end wrench and push the nut onto the tape and down into the wrench. It'll also work on the open-end if you can't get leverage to pop the wrench off the tightened nut.
Linn
On 12/22/2011 8:27 PM, George Nolin wrote: [quote] Use masking tape to tape the nut and washer to your first or middle finger. Cut a hole in the tape so the bolt can penetrate and get started. Another way is to tape the not in a cloase end wrench.
G. Hank Nolin, P.E.
832-640-6284
www.salestaxexemptions.com
"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure--aviation offers it all."
Charles A. Lindbergh
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From: Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com> (philperry9(at)gmail.com)
Subject: Seat Rail Mounts - Invert the bolts?
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 5:30 PM
No matter how hard I try, my wrist don't articulate 165 degrees to install nuts on the underside of the rail mounts (that sit on top of the gear mounts).
Photo of the mount is here:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/d7e03bbf.jpg
I know I'm going against the norm when I suggest inverting the bolts and putting the nuts on top.
Before I do that, has anyone had success getting these nuts installed? If so - how?
BTW-I can't find any part of the plans that define which bolt, nut, washer combos or orientation for this step. If it's called out and I missed it, please let me know so I can make sure I didn't miss anything critical.
Phil
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