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zodiacjeff(at)msn.com
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 Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: this "twitchy" nonsense |
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| Quote: | I have not flown an HDS, but I have seen comments by multiple owners=20
suggesting you can't fly one cross country without an=20
autopilot. Apparently every little bit of bump in the air throws it=20
off from the trimmed up attitude. I assume it doesn't return to the=20
trimmed attitude without help from the pilot or autopilot.
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Absolute horsehockey!!! If it "doesn't return to trimmed attitude" then =
the a/c demonstrates unstable pitch attitude. Any kit/plans a/c with =
that problem wouldn't have much of a following.
With probably 10,000 miles of cross country in my HDS and even though I =
have a Navaid, I still fly most of it on the good old center Y.
The a/c is neutral in pitch stability. Trim for level flight and put a =
5 pound (estimated) pull or push on the stick and you'll be flying level =
in no more than three oscillations. I agree with Larry M. about rough =
air, with the short span and reduced wing area an HDS is far better than =
comparable spam cans that we've all learned in.
Paul, I've noticed that you have an opinion and post on every topic that =
comes up, but you rarely have hard documentation to bear out those =
opinions. It borders on the irresponsible to post opinions when others =
are searching for facts. You like the combination you built and it =
serves you well, any aviation lover would pat you on the back for that. =
Just keep in mind that what works for you might not fit the mission for =
others, and opinions that are plucked out of the air do nothing for any =
of us.
So Jerome, while this list is a treasure of help and motivation, you =
must read the answers with a cautious eye. Who knows, sometimes you'll =
run into old curmudgeons like me.
Regards jeff Oscillations=20
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pmaxpmax(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: this "twitchy" nonsense |
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Jeff's right. There's nothing "twitchy" about the 601XL or the HDS the two
models I've flown. They are both sound, stable, easy flying machines. If
you are used to a 152 or a 172 you will find them much more responsive.
Regarding Paul's posts: I have benefitted greatly from the comments of many
members of this list. There are some excellent people here that are willing
to help. They generally can be found posting with a positive attitude, and
the sense of "can do" spirit. Pauls posts haven't yet risen to that level.
I hope they will in the future. Until then, I'll do my best to keep it
positive and only post information that I have obtained first hand. And
I'll only listen to those who are helpful.
Phil Maxson
601XL/Corvair
N601MX
Northwest New Jersey
| Quote: | From: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff(at)msn.com>
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| Quote: | Subject: this "twitchy" nonsense
Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 17:44:51 -0400
>I have not flown an HDS, but I have seen comments by multiple owners=20
>suggesting you can't fly one cross country without an=20
>autopilot. Apparently every little bit of bump in the air throws it=20
>off from the trimmed up attitude. I assume it doesn't return to the=20
>trimmed attitude without help from the pilot or autopilot.
Absolute horsehockey!!! If it "doesn't return to trimmed attitude" then =
the a/c demonstrates unstable pitch attitude. Any kit/plans a/c with =
that problem wouldn't have much of a following.
With probably 10,000 miles of cross country in my HDS and even though I =
have a Navaid, I still fly most of it on the good old center Y.
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JAPhillipsGA(at)AOL.COM
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:39 am Post subject: this "twitchy" nonsense |
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Thread Friends, my XL is twitchy, itchy, witchy, but not bitchy. We flew back
from Savannah yesterday in the early P.M. and though hot it was clear. As I
walked out I looked at the radar and not a cloud all the way to Alabama. I had
planned 4500 for the flight back and in less than 10 minutes after turning on
course big clouds formed right before my eyes. starting at about 5000. I
climbed over them to 6500 and that was okay for another 10 minutes then hugh clouds
formed ahead all the way up to forever. Nothing to do VFR but to get under
them and they were all the way to 3000 by now. So we bounced along dipping and
banging. I had to reduce power and speed to reduce the impact. Poor baby must
have known that this was the last flight before annual because she proved again
the strength of design as I felt like the weakest link in the flying
equation. My poor sweet Wife hung on and encouraged me every time I moaned when we got
slammed. That was a very long 2.5 hours and I was real happy to bank into
final and touch down. Wet with sweat and numb from the beating, I took a while to
exit. Joy on the other hand said, "We've flown through much worse weather"
and hopped right out and opened the hanger. Life, flying through it and my
wonderful Wife never stop amazing me. For you fellows who can't seem to get it in
gear or your butt off the fence you are wasting precious time.
Best to you all, Bill of Georgia
N505WP
601XL-3300 w/ds 74 hours
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