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toaster73(at)embarqmail.c
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 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:41 am Post subject: Empty weight |
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I am near Bob at 1725. And similar equipment and paint/interior/insulation etc.
-Chris
N919AR
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:25 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: re: N541RV first flight
Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below?
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman(at)tcwtech.com (rnewman(at)tcwtech.com)> wrote:
The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755.
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ScooterF15
Joined: 19 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:24 am Post subject: Empty weight |
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I'm at 1565 lb; IFR panel, fully primed but minimalist interior and no
paint yet. 1600 is realistic if you want it.
-Jim
N312JE
On 1/29/12, Chris <toaster73(at)embarqmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I am near Bob at 1725. And similar equipment and paint/interior/insulation
etc.
-Chris
N919AR
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:25 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: re: N541RV first flight
Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is
just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most
folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below?
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman(at)tcwtech.com> wrote:
The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755.
do not archive
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dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject: Empty weight |
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I've seen a paint job add 150 lbs but that was a IV-P that took a
lot of bodywork, several colors, and no detail spared.
My interior added about 80 pounds which made me mad at first
but I got over it. The shop added some soundproofing that I could
have done without but in retrospect it's pretty quiet without the
headsets on.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:21 AM, James McGrew <jsmcgrew(at)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
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I'm at 1565 lb; IFR panel, fully primed but minimalist interior and no
paint yet. 1600 is realistic if you want it.
-Jim
N312JE
On 1/29/12, Chris <toaster73(at)embarqmail.com> wrote:
> I am near Bob at 1725. And similar equipment and paint/interior/insulation
> etc.
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> -Chris
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> N919AR
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> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:25 AM
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: re: N541RV first flight
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> Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is
> just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most
> folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below?
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> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman(at)tcwtech.com> wrote:
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> The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755.
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> do not archive
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mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: Empty weight |
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I came in at 1684 full amateur paint and flight line interior. Full 3 screen panel, 2 batts, 2 alternators, etc. Seems very doable as a VFR cruiser.
Bill
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On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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I've seen a paint job add 150 lbs but that was a IV-P that took a
lot of bodywork, several colors, and no detail spared.
My interior added about 80 pounds which made me mad at first
but I got over it. The shop added some soundproofing that I could
have done without but in retrospect it's pretty quiet without the
headsets on.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:21 AM, James McGrew <jsmcgrew(at)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
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> I'm at 1565 lb; IFR panel, fully primed but minimalist interior and no
> paint yet. 1600 is realistic if you want it.
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> -Jim
> N312JE
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> On 1/29/12, Chris <toaster73(at)embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> I am near Bob at 1725. And similar equipment and paint/interior/insulation
>> etc.
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>> -Chris
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>> N919AR
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>> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:25 AM
>> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: re: N541RV first flight
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>> Just curious if Van's claimed 1600 lb empty wt is all that realistic, or is
>> just a plane with no primer, no insulation and few instruments? Are most
>> folks closer to Bob's figure, above or below?
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>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:33 AM, bob-tcw <rnewman(at)tcwtech.com> wrote:
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>> The 100% complete empty weight came in at 1755.
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Bob Turner
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Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Empty weight |
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N48HT BEW = 1605 lbs
full ifr w/ GRT HX, HS, EIS; Dynon D6 backup w/ battery.
G420, SL-30, GTX 327, home-made audio panel, xm weather radio.
Trio Pro auto pilot w/ auto trim.
Interior and exterior primed; exterior has a thin (too thin) coat of PTI enamel poorly sprayed by me. Cowling shows the hex pattern, I don't fill enough.
Interior has some carpet and leather seat coverings but nothing else. Cabin top spray painted with Rust-O-lium because I couldn't stand the pink.
Definitely need good headphones, but with them the noise level is okay.
Standard engine (D4A5).
I am happy to trade the unsightly interior (in some peoples' eyes - I think it's fine) and slightly higher noise level and more uneven heating in the winter for the unbelievable climb rate, ceiling, and load carrying capability.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Empty weight |
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Ewcg= 7.7" (at) 1626 lbs w/o ext paint. 2 grt hx, 430w, pma8000b, g327, sl-40, dynon d6, g496, tt df2 ap, ak451 406 elt, painted int, cloth seats, 925/680 bat in back, 55 watt dw hids, whelen strobes, roll trim, sean's latch kit, d4a5, hartzell 2bl ba...flies like a dream.
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dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:39 pm Post subject: Empty weight |
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Wayne, if you can let us know what the paint ends up weighing it'll
make a good data point.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:20 PM, rv10flyer <wayne.gillispie(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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Ewcg= 7.7" (at) 1626 lbs w/o ext paint. 2 grt hx, 430w, pma8000b, g327, sl-40, dynon d6, g496, tt df2 ap, ak451 406 elt, painted int, cloth seats, 925/680 bat in back, 55 watt dw hids, whelen strobes, roll trim, sean's latch kit, d4a5, hartzell 2bl ba...flies like a dream.
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40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
N715WD 382nd Flying. TT= 29 hrs.
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rv10flyer
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Empty weight |
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I will let you guys know on here about the paint.
I would imagine there is some differences in all of our scales too. Mine were race car scales, but not certified. I stepped on each scale just to see how it compared to my home bathroom scales. Reading on all three were within 1 lb. I told Ken Scott at Van's what I had in it and he guessed the wt within a few lbs. I would think it would be very difficult to get under 1600 lbs for a painted ifr bird. It could be done as you will see below, I could have saved at least 60 lbs. That would have put me right at 1600 lbs with paint. Would I fly my family vfr on top or ifr in it...No way. As it is, I am near 2700 lbs with "healthy" family and 99 lbs baggage. It still climbs out at a steady 1500 fpm nicely. Sure beats 600 fpm in the 172S.
The places I could have saved weight are the following:
Flap position(show planes) with one extra wire. Nice for go arounds.
Seans latch kit. Nice to have doors remain intact.
680 aux bat & 10 ga wire/12 sp aux fuse block. Nice 1 hr full panel pwr.
Aux contactor. Nice to start either bat.
Hot bat bus fuse block, 6 space. Efis clock/int lights.
2- 18-3 shielded cable spares from panel to tailcone. ADS-B?
Mb ant & coax to left wing tip. Not req but nice to have.
Lighter prop. I liked David Maib's composite.
Smaller gauge wiring on entire plane.
Slightly less proseal. Almost a qt per tank...no leaks.
No firewall or bottom tunnel fiberfrax insulation. Hope to keep fire in cyl's.
No roll trim, cable, wire. Never used w/fuel balanced with or w/o ap on.
Vertical Power- don't know wt savings over my tog sw/fuses. Say Bob L.?
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