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What's inside the vertical stab below elevator level

 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:13 pm    Post subject: What's inside the vertical stab below elevator level Reply with quote

Hi again, Kolbers,

I have a tear in the fabric circumferentially around the tube that runs
diagonally from the boom tube to the tail wheel and a wrinkle up both
sides to the upper tube. I don't know what goes on inside the
triangular piece of vertical stab beneath the level of the elevator, so
I don't know if the problem is just fabric or something with the tube
inside. Does anyone have a photo of the tubing of that section of a FF
uncovered so that I can see what it's like inside? Or perhaps a scan of
p. 5 of the builder's blueprint? I don't want to cut the fabric if it's
only a fabric malfunction, but I don't want to land with a broken tail
wheel assy, either.

Thanks for any enlightenment. Something most of us can use from time to
time...

Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: What's inside the vertical stab below elevator level Reply with quote

Dave,
The tail wheel spring slides into the steel tubing of the tail post assy.But that tube is only about 3-4" long and a piece of aluminum tube is riveted to it and goes up the rest of the way to the fuselage tube.That aluminum tube has more than likely broken at the end of the steel.The twisting loads that the tail wheel puts on this assy. when you turn sharply does this.Grab the vertical fin and shake the tail side to side and you can see this .John Hauck made a nice fix for this issue and a lot of us have made the modification .I have a picture or two. G.Aman



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:05 pm    Post subject: What's inside the vertical stab below elevator level Reply with quote

Gary I put the tail wheel spring clamp from JBM that you suggested on my plane.It's amazing how much it tightens up the tail wheel spring in the vertical stab.Also installed Johns vertical stab braces.Sure strengthens side motion on the Mark 3.The list is certainly a wealth of knowledge.

Gary Jindra

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From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sun, January 29, 2012 4:44:03 PM
Subject: Re: What's inside the vertical stab below elevator level

Dave,
The tail wheel spring slides into the steel tubing of the tail post assy.But that tube is only about 3-4" long and a piece of aluminum tube is riveted to it and goes up the rest of the way to the fuselage tube.That aluminum tube has more than likely broken at the end of the steel.The twisting loads that the tail wheel puts on this assy. when you turn sharply does this.Grab the vertical fin and shake the tail side to side and you can see this .John Hauck made a nice fix for this issue and a lot of us have made the modification .I have a picture or two. G.Aman



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:06 pm    Post subject: What's inside the vertical stab below elevator level Reply with quote

Dave - you mean inside? Here we go:
http://phactor.com/Dave1.jpg
http://phactor.com/Dave2.jpg

Building my Firefly now.
Phil H.
FF11-4-00076

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Subject: Re: What's inside the vertical stab below elevator level
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Date: Sunday, January 29, 2012, 4:44 PM

Dave,
The tail wheel spring slides into the steel tubing of the tail post assy.But that tube is only about 3-4" long and a piece of aluminum tube is riveted to it and goes up the rest of the way to the fuselage tube.That aluminum tube has more than likely broken at the end of the steel.The twisting loads that the tail wheel puts on this assy. when you turn sharply does this.Grab the vertical fin and shake the tail side to side and you can see this .John Hauck made a nice fix for this issue and a lot of us have made the modification .I have a picture or two. G.Aman



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