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uvtreith(at)t-online.de
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 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:59 am Post subject: AW: Deformation of canopy |
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Hi Roland,
I would leave the door inside its door frame and would wait for warmer days; maybe it will set by itself after a while.
The best protection for this is to built in an advice. I will install in springtime two micro switches mounted on an aluminium plate together with a common carriage bolt (Schloßschraube).
Please see attached pictures (just made for you). You have to make one mirror inverted (spiegelverkehrt). The switch-bolt arrangement weights 35 gramm each.
In my panel I have fitted two small green LED lights and the micro switches are openers. When the door is correctly closed, the LED will go out.
Best Regards,
Bruno
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Februar 2012 12:32
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Betreff: Deformation of canopy
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roland" <schmidtroland(at)web.de>
Hi all,
yesterday something embarrassing (and dangerous) happened to me. After departure (already in 5000 ft) I noticed that the door on the copilot-side was not locked on the rear side (I almost hear you saying: "that cannot happen when you worked through the checklist prior take off"). You are so right!
After the first shock (suddenly the appropriate passage of the POH came crystal clear in my mind: "when the door springs open it will most likely depart the aircraft") I asked my Co to pull the handle in front and I did the same on the rear.
I was so lucky to land with my Europa as a whole!! When leaving the aircraft my Co noticed a resistance when opening the door. It turned out, that the frame on the top of the door seemed to be deformed in a way that the gap between door and frame/roof became too small causing this resistance approximately when half open (then the door frame contacts the roof frame) . When complete open or closed everything seems normal. The hinges and screws where it's mounted are apparently undamaged.
Does anyone have a suggestion how to bring the door into a perfect fit again?
Thanks for your input!
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
Trigear XS
Rotax 914
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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:07 am Post subject: AW: Deformation of canopy |
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Hi Bruno,
I elected to make a system which have two serial connected micro switches per door. When they are BOTH IN I have a green led. When I have two green leds I am pretty sure my doors are firmly closed.
Otherwice, they are open OR system is somehow broken. Two Greens = The System is operational = The Doors are closed.
Maybe you would like to have red lights (when doors are open) instead of greens or change MS´s to be NO (normally open [when doors are open]) as I have them.
I promise what more you see green lights when flying that happier you will be (there are possibilities to have masses of green)! 
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Notice also my extra safety: there is also a pip-pin to prevent an unwanted inflight door opening.
Just my ½ penny or how those englismen that says so gently and good luck for you!
Raimo
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
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From: uvtreith (uvtreith(at)t-online.de)
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 6:51 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: AW: Deformation of canopy
Hi Roland,
I would leave the door inside its door frame and would wait for warmer days; maybe it will set by itself after a while.
The best protection for this is to built in an advice. I will install in springtime two micro switches mounted on an aluminium plate together with a common carriage bolt (Schloßschraube).
Please see attached pictures (just made for you). You have to make one mirror inverted (spiegelverkehrt). The switch-bolt arrangement weights 35 gramm each.
In my panel I have fitted two small green LED lights and the micro switches are openers. When the door is correctly closed, the LED will go out.
Best Regards,
Bruno
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Roland
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Februar 2012 12:32
An: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Betreff: Europa-List: Deformation of canopy
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roland" <schmidtroland(at)web.de>
Hi all,
yesterday something embarrassing (and dangerous) happened to me. After departure (already in 5000 ft) I noticed that the door on the copilot-side was not locked on the rear side (I almost hear you saying: "that cannot happen when you worked through the checklist prior take off"). You are so right!
After the first shock (suddenly the appropriate passage of the POH came crystal clear in my mind: "when the door springs open it will most likely depart the aircraft") I asked my Co to pull the handle in front and I did the same on the rear.
I was so lucky to land with my Europa as a whole!! When leaving the aircraft my Co noticed a resistance when opening the door. It turned out, that the frame on the top of the door seemed to be deformed in a way that the gap between door and frame/roof became too small causing this resistance approximately when half open (then the door frame contacts the roof frame) . When complete open or closed everything seems normal. The hinges and screws where it's mounted are apparently undamaged.
Does anyone have a suggestion how to bring the door into a perfect fit again?
Thanks for your input!
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
Trigear XS
Rotax 914
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g-iani(at)ntlworld.com
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:03 am Post subject: AW: Deformation of canopy |
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To follow up on the point made by Tim “That would not be allowed on a certified aircraft”. It is not allowed on LAA aircraft in the UK.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
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