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Moe,
Try General Aviation Maintenance, Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, AU, they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Com
Subject: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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What are you looking for Moe a cabin supercharger?
From: wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.com.au
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:16:29 +1100
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Moe,
Try General Aviation Maintenance, Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, AU, they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Com
Subject: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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moe-rosspistons(at)hotmai
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER |
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Mike,
All I really need is the roller bearing for the Vickers hydraulic motor(#MF033B007B) that drives the cabin supercharger. There are a lot of other items that I would like to have if they were available at a good price. McGill made the bearing (# VS-211490) but does not have it avail. SKF made a bearing (#NU1910E) that was very similar, however, no one has one in stock that I can find.
I have received two quotes for a rebuilt motor (1) $ 14,500.00 exchange + $ 9,500 core charge and they will back bill me for any unusable parts in my unit. (2) $ 19,880.00 EXCHANGE + $ 9,500.00 core charge. Both prices of course do not include freight and taxes. Both quotes had extended lead times.
It is my understanding that the MR. RPM conversions used turbocharger bleed air instead of a cabin supercharger, which would unfortunately rule out Mason's old plane (N70QT) and the plane that Bill references in Australia. Photos of N55GL (derelict in Berry Hill, GA) show it to not have an air scoop on the top which leads me to believe that it is a 680F and not a 680F(p). I will try to confirm this tomorrow.
Without the cabin supercharger not only can the cabin not be pressurized, the heater will not work, as this supercharger supplies the air for the heater both on the ground and in the air.
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and help. Obviously, any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
From: floydgm(at)hotmail.com
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:58:43 -0700
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From: wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.com.au
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:16:29 +1100
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Moe,
Try General Aviation Maintenance, Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, AU, they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Com
Subject: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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barry.collman(at)air-brit
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:53 am Post subject: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER |
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Hi Moe,
N55GL is definitely a 680F(P).
I have quite a few shots of it at Berry Hill, including one of the dorsal scoop itself, which is also visible in a few of the shots.
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 09 February 2012 03:11
To: Com
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Mike,
All I really need is the roller bearing for the Vickers hydraulic motor(#MF033B007B) that drives the cabin supercharger. There are a lot of other items that I would like to have if they were available at a good price. McGill made the bearing (# VS-211490) but does not have it avail. SKF made a bearing (#NU1910E) that was very similar, however, no one has one in stock that I can find.
I have received two quotes for a rebuilt motor (1) $ 14,500.00 exchange + $ 9,500 core charge and they will back bill me for any unusable parts in my unit. (2) $ 19,880.00 EXCHANGE + $ 9,500.00 core charge. Both prices of course do not include freight and taxes. Both quotes had extended lead times.
It is my understanding that the MR. RPM conversions used turbocharger bleed air instead of a cabin supercharger, which would unfortunately rule out Mason's old plane (N70QT) and the plane that Bill references in Australia. Photos of N55GL (derelict in Berry Hill, GA) show it to not have an air scoop on the top which leads me to believe that it is a 680F and not a 680F(p). I will try to confirm this tomorrow.
Without the cabin supercharger not only can the cabin not be pressurized, the heater will not work, as this supercharger supplies the air for the heater both on the ground and in the air.
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and help. Obviously, any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
From: floydgm(at)hotmail.com
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:58:43 -0700
What are you looking for Moe a cabin supercharger?
From: wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.com.au
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:16:29 +1100
Moe,
Try General Aviation Maintenance, Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, AU, they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Com
Subject: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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BillLeff1(at)aol.com
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Herry Merritt had motors and a complete 680FP when he pass away. I stopped
by this summer and his hangar was cleaned out. I was told that his son moved
it all if you can track him down
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From: Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:53:39 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Hi Moe,
N55GL is definitely a 680F(P).
I have quite a few shots of it at Berry Hill, including one of the dorsal
scoop itself, which is also visible in a few of the shots.
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 09 February 2012 03:11
To: Com
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Mike,
All I really need is the roller bearing for the Vickers hydraulic
motor(#MF033B007B) that drives the cabin supercharger. There are a lot of
other items that I would like to have if they were available at a good
price. McGill made the bearing (# VS-211490) but does not have it avail.
SKF made a bearing (#NU1910E) that was very similar, however, no one has
one in stock that I can find.
I have received two quotes for a rebuilt motor (1) $ 14,500.00 exchange + $
9,500 core charge and they will back bill me for any unusable parts in my
unit. (2) $ 19,880.00 EXCHANGE + $ 9,500.00 core charge. Both prices of
course do not include freight and taxes. Both quotes had extended lead
times.
It is my understanding that the MR. RPM conversions used turbocharger bleed
air instead of a cabin supercharger, which would unfortunately rule out
Mason's old plane (N70QT) and the plane that Bill references in Australia.
Photos of N55GL (derelict in Berry Hill, GA) show it to not have an air
scoop on the top which leads me to believe that it is a 680F
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moe-rosspistons(at)hotmai
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Hi Bill,
I think that Morris went down and helped Harry's son "sort out the stuff". I was going to buy a couple of wheels and some other spares from them. If Morris or someone has Harry's sons contact info., could they please advise. I may be down there before too long.
When this problem begain to develop, Morris was my first call, however, he doesn't have anything.
Thanx much!
Moe
N680RR
From: BillLeff1(at)aol.com
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:05:08 -0500
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Herry Merritt had motors and a complete 680FP when he pass away. I stopped by this summer and his hangar was cleaned out. I was told that his son moved it all if you can track him down
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Phone
-----Original message-----
From: Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:53:39 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Hi Moe,
N55GL is definitely a 680F(P).
I have quite a few shots of it at Berry Hill, including one of the dorsal scoop itself, which is also visible in a few of the shots.
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 09 February 2012 03:11
To: Com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Mike,
All I really need is the roller bearing for the Vickers hydraulic motor(#MF033B007B) that drives the cabin supercharger. There are a lot of other items that I would like to have if they were available at a good price. McGill made the bearing (# VS-211490) but does not have it avail. SKF made a bearing (#NU1910E) that was very similar, however, no one has one in stock that I can find.
I have received two quotes for a rebuilt motor (1) $ 14,500.00 exchange + $ 9,500 core charge and they will back bill me for any unusable parts in my unit. (2) $ 19,880.00 EXCHANGE + $ 9,500.00 core charge. Both prices of course do not include freight and taxes. Both quotes had extended lead times.
It is my understanding that the MR. RPM conversions used turbocharger bleed air instead of a cabin supercharger, which would unfortunately rule out Mason's old plane (N70QT) and the plane that Bill references in Australia. Photos of N55GL (derelict in Berry Hill, GA) show it to not have an air scoop on the top which leads me to believe that it is a 680F and not a 680F(p). I will try to confirm this tomorrow.
Without the cabin supercharger not only can the cabin not be pressurized, the heater will not work, as this supercharger supplies the air for the heater both on the ground and in the air.
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and help. Obviously, any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
From: floydgm(at)hotmail.com
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:58:43 -0700
What are you looking for Moe a cabin supercharger?
From: wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.com.au
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:16:29 +1100
Moe,
Try General Aviation Maintenance, Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, AU, they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Com
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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Let me know if you get the contact info. I would be interested in some parts as well. I think his son lives in the Carolina's
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To: Com <commander-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 16:46:06 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Hi Bill,
I think that Morris went down and helped Harry's son "sort out the stuff". I was going to buy a couple of wheels and some other spares from them. If Morris or someone has Harry's sons contact info., could they please advise. I may be down there before too long.
When this problem begain to develop, Morris was my first call, however, he doesn't have anything.
Thanx much!
Moe
N680RR
From: BillLeff1(at)aol.com
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:05:08 -0500
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
.ExternalClass {word-wrap:break-word;background-color:#ffffff;} Herry Merritt had motors and a complete 680FP when he pass away. I stopped by this summer and his hangar was cleaned out. I was told that his son moved it all if you can track him down
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Phone
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[quote] From: Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:53:39 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
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Hi Moe,
N55GL is definitely a 680F(P).
I have quite a few shots of it at Berry Hill, including one of the dorsal scoop itself, which is also visible in a few of the shots.
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 09 February 2012 03:11
To: Com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Mike,
All I really need is the roller bearing for the Vickers hydraulic motor(#MF033B007B) that drives the cabin supercharger. There are a lot of other items that I would like to have if they were available at a good price. McGill made the bearing (# VS-211490) but does not have it avail. SKF made a bearing (#NU1910E) that was very similar, however, no one has one in stock that I can find.
I have received two quotes for a rebuilt motor (1) $ 14,500.00 exchange + $ 9,500 core charge and they will back bill me for any unusable parts in my unit. (2) $ 19,880.00 EXCHANGE + $ 9,500.00 core charge. Both prices of course do not include freight and taxes. Both quotes had extended lead times.
It is my understanding that the MR. RPM conversions used turbocharger bleed air instead of a cabin supercharger, which would unfortunately rule out Mason's old plane (N70QT) and the plane that Bill references in Australia. Photos of N55GL (derelict in Berry Hill, GA) show it to not have an air scoop on the top which leads me to believe that it is a 680F and not a 680F(p). I will try to confirm this tomorrow.
Without the cabin supercharger not only can the cabin not be pressurized, the heater will not work, as this supercharger supplies the air for the heater both on the ground and in the air.
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and help. Obviously, any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
From: floydgm(at)hotmail.com
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:58:43 -0700
What are you looking for Moe a cabin supercharger?
From: wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.com.au
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:16:29 +1100
Moe,
Try General Aviation Maintenance, Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, AU, they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Com
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
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Bill,
It would probably be worth contacting General Aviation Maintenance Pty Ltd, Ph: + 61 3 9379 1019. Fax: +61 3 9374 2620 ..., to see what they have. Being a long way from anywhere, spares holding down here tend to be larger than the average MRO in US or Canada. You never know your luck. They might even have a line on alternative bearings that you are looking for.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
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Moe, could you not get a similar bearing from other manufacturer and just have a DER or a DAR sign it off as field mod? Seems like an awful lot of money to replace a whole unit just because the bearing can't be found...
Is there no STC to convert the supercharger to something a bit cheaper? Something similar to the Peter Schiff CCU units for the 690?
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:42 am Post subject: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER |
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Adam,
None of the bearings that are available have the correct I.D. to O.D. It is impossible to machine the shaft to reduce the bearing I.D. requirement and the housing is not thick enough to machine the housing by 2mm (approx. .080) to accomidate any bearing that is available. Also, Vickers used a bearing which is narrower than usual.
Regards,
Moe
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 20:50:06 -0800
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Moe, could you not get a similar bearing from other manufacturer and just have a DER or a DAR sign it off as field mod? Seems like an awful lot of money to replace a whole unit just because the bearing can't be found...
Is there no STC to convert the supercharger to something a bit cheaper? Something similar to the Peter Schiff CCU units for the 690?
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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> Moe, Check with Ed Mege, He can probably repair it. Phone No.845 858 7825.
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Lloyd,
Thanks much, I will call him Tuesday.
Regards,
Moe
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:54:22 -0500
Moe, Check with Ed Mege, He can probably repair it. Phone No.845 858 7825.
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You might try Richard Cam , he and Harry were friends . I think Richard is in St. Augustine , I`ll try to find his number . Gil
In a message dated 2/9/2012 7:59:08 P.M. Central America Standard Ti, BillLeff1(at)aol.com writes:
| Quote: | Let me know if you get the contact info. I would be interested in some parts as well. I think his son lives in the Carolina's
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| Quote: | From: Moe Mills <moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com>
To: Com <commander-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 16:46:06 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Hi Bill,
I think that Morris went down and helped Harry's son "sort out the stuff". I was going to buy a couple of wheels and some other spares from them. If Morris or someone has Harry's sons contact info., could they please advise. I may be down there before too long.
When this problem begain to develop, Morris was my first call, however, he doesn't have anything.
Thanx much!
Moe
N680RR
From: BillLeff1(at)aol.com
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:05:08 -0500
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
.ExternalClass {word-wrap:break-word;background-color:#ffffff;} Herry Merritt had motors and a complete 680FP when he pass away. I stopped by this summer and his hangar was cleaned out. I was told that his son moved it all if you can track him down
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| Quote: | From: Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:53:39 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
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Hi Moe,
N55GL is definitely a 680F(P).
I have quite a few shots of it at Berry Hill, including one of the dorsal scoop itself, which is also visible in a few of the shots.
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 09 February 2012 03:11
To: Com
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Mike,
All I really need is the roller bearing for the Vickers hydraulic motor(#MF033B007B) that drives the cabin supercharger. There are a lot of other items that I would like to have if they were available at a good price. McGill made the bearing (# VS-211490) but does not have it avail. SKF made a bearing (#NU1910E) that was very similar, however, no one has one in stock that I can find.
I have received two quotes for a rebuilt motor (1) $ 14,500.00 exchange + $ 9,500 core charge and they will back bill me for any unusable parts in my unit. (2) $ 19,880.00 EXCHANGE + $ 9,500.00 core charge. Both prices of course do not include freight and taxes. Both quotes had extended lead times.
It is my understanding that the MR. RPM conversions used turbocharger bleed air instead of a cabin supercharger, which would unfortunately rule out Mason's old plane (N70QT) and the plane that Bill references in Australia. Photos of N55GL (derelict in Berry Hill, GA) show it to not have an air scoop on the top which leads me to believe that it is a 680F and not a 680F(p). I will try to confirm this tomorrow.
Without the cabin supercharger not only can the cabin not be pressurized, the heater will not work, as this supercharger supplies the air for the heater both on the ground and in the air.
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and help. Obviously, any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
From: floydgm(at)hotmail.com
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:58:43 -0700
What are you looking for Moe a cabin supercharger?
From: wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.com.au
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:16:29 +1100
Moe,
Try General Aviation Maintenance, Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, AU, they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Com
Subject: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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On Feb 12, 2012, at 6:12 PM, WINGFLYER1(at)aol.com (WINGFLYER1(at)aol.com) wrote:
[quote] You might try Richard Cam , he and Harry were friends . I think Richard is in St. Augustine , I`ll try to find his number . Gil
In a message dated 2/9/2012 7:59:08 P.M. Central America Standard Ti, BillLeff1(at)aol.com (BillLeff1(at)aol.com) writes:
| Quote: | Let me know if you get the contact info. I would be interested in some parts as well. I think his son lives in the Carolina's
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Phone
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| Quote: | From: Moe Mills <moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com (moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com)>
To: Com <commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 16:46:06 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Hi Bill,
I think that Morris went down and helped Harry's son "sort out the stuff". I was going to buy a couple of wheels and some other spares from them. If Morris or someone has Harry's sons contact info., could they please advise. I may be down there before too long.
When this problem begain to develop, Morris was my first call, however, he doesn't have anything.
Thanx much!
Moe
N680RR
From: BillLeff1(at)aol.com (BillLeff1(at)aol.com)
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:05:08 -0500
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
.ExternalClass {word-wrap:break-word;background-color:#ffffff;} Herry Merritt had motors and a complete 680FP when he pass away. I stopped by this summer and his hangar was cleaned out. I was told that his son moved it all if you can track him down
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Phone
-----Original message-----
| Quote: | From: Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk (barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk)>
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:53:39 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
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Hi Moe,
N55GL is definitely a 680F(P).
I have quite a few shots of it at Berry Hill, including one of the dorsal scoop itself, which is also visible in a few of the shots.
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 09 February 2012 03:11
To: Com
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Mike,
All I really need is the roller bearing for the Vickers hydraulic motor(#MF033B007B) that drives the cabin supercharger. There are a lot of other items that I would like to have if they were available at a good price. McGill made the bearing (# VS-211490) but does not have it avail. SKF made a bearing (#NU1910E) that was very similar, however, no one has one in stock that I can find.
I have received two quotes for a rebuilt motor (1) $ 14,500.00 exchange + $ 9,500 core charge and they will back bill me for any unusable parts in my unit. (2) $ 19,880.00 EXCHANGE + $ 9,500.00 core charge. Both prices of course do not include freight and taxes. Both quotes had extended lead times.
It is my understanding that the MR. RPM conversions used turbocharger bleed air instead of a cabin supercharger, which would unfortunately rule out Mason's old plane (N70QT) and the plane that Bill references in Australia. Photos of N55GL (derelict in Berry Hill, GA) show it to not have an air scoop on the top which leads me to believe that it is a 680F and not a 680F(p). I will try to confirm this tomorrow.
Without the cabin supercharger not only can the cabin not be pressurized, the heater will not work, as this supercharger supplies the air for the heater both on the ground and in the air.
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and help. Obviously, any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
From: floydgm(at)hotmail.com (floydgm(at)hotmail.com)
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:58:43 -0700
What are you looking for Moe a cabin supercharger?
From: wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.com.au (wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.com.au)
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:16:29 +1100
Moe,
Try General Aviation Maintenance, Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, AU, they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Com
Subject: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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H MOE.....I dont know where to get the bearing, but the heater should work in the air in the "ram air" position. jb
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