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norske.fly(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 02/20/12

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   [url=http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1283388906]Skip Slyfield

 To the YakListas:



Many of you knew my Dad, Commander Blackjack Slyfield, USN who passed away the 12th of Jan. My sister and I arre putting together a celebration and Navy-style send-off for him on the 26th of May in McGregor, Iowa. (See attached link). I'm trying to put together a missing man flyover for The Commander for the 26th, Saturday. His hometown is beautiful, on the bluffs on the Mississippi River. The Natives are friendly, the beer is cold and the cheese curds are...plentiful. I want to extend an invitation to all in the Red Star Community, especially the ones in the Midwest, to come and fly. I can't promise much more than a tank of gas, discounted fuel prices (maybe) and excellent hospitality. Plus some beautiful areas to do low-levels, far away from the prying eyes of Radar. Join me to celebrate the passing of one of The Greatest Generation, a combat Vet of WWII, Korea and VietNam.

 

Skip Ranger Slyfield

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    1. 01:16 PM - Yak elevator  (Chris Wise)

    2. 01:28 PM - Re: Yak elevator  (cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com))

    3. 02:06 PM - Re: Yak elevator  (Chris Wise)

     4. 02:07 PM - Re: Yak elevator  (Walter Lannon)

    5. 03:14 PM - Re: Yak elevator  (Vic)

    6. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Yak elevator  (Chris Wise)

    7. 05:53 PM - Re: Yak elevator  (A. Dennis Savarese)

    8. 06:58 PM - Re: Yak elevator  (Chris Wise)

     9. 07:06 PM - Re: Yak elevator  (Walter Lannon)



________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________

Time: 01:16:46 PM PST US

From: "Chris Wise" <wise(at)txc.net.au (wise(at)txc.net.au)>

 Subject: Yak elevator



G'Day All,

Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator and what the

fix is.



I would greatly appreciate some photo's of the problem and the fix if anyone

 has any.

Thanks and cheers,



Chris Wise.



(Downunder)

________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________

Time: 01:28:40 PM PST US

From: cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)

 Subject: Re: Yak elevator



Chris,

I assure you are referring to some crashes.  There are very close

clearances of control horns to air frame in the tail of the Yaks.  Any  kin

d of

foreign object that happen to get into that area, will almost certainly  ja

 m it.

 Therefore it behooves one to check regularly for ANYTHING  that might

migrate back there.  This would include anything that might  fall out of on

e's

pockets, particularly during acro.  Although this is true  of ANY airplane,

 

the Yak is very susceptible.  Are "fix's".



Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

In a message dated 2/20/2012 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

wise(at)txc.net.au (wise(at)txc.net.au) writes:

 



G=99Day All,

Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak  elevator and what

the fix is.

I would greatly appreciate some photo=99s of the problem and  the fix

 if

anyone has any.

Thanks and cheers,

 Chris Wise.

(Downunder)

(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List)



(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)

 



________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________

Time: 02:06:59 PM PST US

From: "Chris Wise" <wise(at)txc.net.au (wise(at)txc.net.au)>

 Subject: RE: Yak elevator



G=99Day Pappy,

Thanks for that.



I am fully aware of foreign objects and I believe that that was the

reason for the crash in New Zealand.



Was it a screwdriver that jammed the elevator?

 



What I am trying to determine, is as I understand, a problem in the tail

sector, is it the elevator bellcrank?



I was told on Sunday that the Yaks tailplanes are now subject to a 25

hour inspection schedule due to some failure.

 

So what is the problem?



What is the fix?



Does anyone have any photographs relating to this?

Thanks and cheers,



Chris.

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)

 [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of

cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)

Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 7:58 AM

 Subject: Re: Yak elevator

Chris,



I assure you are referring to some crashes.  There are very close

clearances of control horns to air frame in the tail of the Yaks.  Any

kind of foreign object that happen to get into that area, will almost

 certainly jam it.  Therefore it behooves one to check regularly for

ANYTHING that might migrate back there.  This would include anything

that might fall out of one's pockets, particularly during acro.

Although this is true of ANY airplane, the Yak is very susceptible.  Are

 "fix's".

Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

In a message dated 2/20/2012 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

wise(at)txc.net.au (wise(at)txc.net.au) writes:



G=99Day All,

 



Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator and what

the fix is.



I would greatly appreciate some photo=99s of the problem and the

fix if anyone has any.

Thanks and cheers,

 

Chris Wise.



(Downunder)

="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com

 /Navigator?Yak-List

s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com

p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution

 



________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________

Time: 02:07:54 PM PST US

From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)>

 Subject: Re: Yak elevator



I addition to the =9Cforeign object=9D item there is a

problem with fatigue cracking of the elevator bellcrank (Yak 52) and

loss of elevator control.  I do not know all the details but believe

 there is an airworthiness directive on the subject.  Suggest you contact

Richard Goode in the UK.

Walt



From: cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)

Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:27 PM

 Subject: Re: Yak elevator



Chris,

I assure you are referring to some crashes.  There are very close

clearances of control horns to air frame in the tail of the Yaks.  Any

kind of foreign object that happen to get into that area, will almost

 certainly jam it.  Therefore it behooves one to check regularly for

ANYTHING that might migrate back there.  This would include anything

that might fall out of one's pockets, particularly during acro.

Although this is true of ANY airplane, the Yak is very susceptible.  Are

 "fix's".



Jim "Pappy" Goolsby



In a message dated 2/20/2012 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

wise(at)txc.net.au (wise(at)txc.net.au) writes:

 G=99Day All,

 

 Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator and

what the fix is.



 I would greatly appreciate some photo=99s of the problem and the

fix if anyone has any.



 Thanks and cheers,

 

 Chris Wise.



 (Downunder)

="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com

 /Navigator?Yak-List

s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com

p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution

 



________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________

Time: 03:14:20 PM PST US

Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak elevator

From: "Vic" <vicmolnar(at)aol.com (vicmolnar(at)aol.com)>

 



Hi Chris,



this problem is specific for the 52 and and you are running an 18 T ? If I remember

correctly Andrey Gluchov has told me that the replacement items are copied

in steel to avoid cracks in the elevator aluminium bell cranks. There must have

 been a series which was not manufactured according to original design.



Cheers



Vic

Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366756#366756

 



________________________________  Message 6  _____________________________________

Time: 03:34:57 PM PST US

From: "Chris Wise" <wise(at)txc.net.au (wise(at)txc.net.au)>

 Subject: RE: Re: Yak elevator

G'day Vic,



Yes, I am running a 18T.

I have 2 friends with 52's and they raised the subject with me.

Plus my LAME has a number of 52's as well as 18's that he looks after and is

 also interested in any information on the subject.

I have been nominated as the gopher to source the info. Bugger is'nt it.



Thanks and cheers,

Chris.



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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 02/20/12

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  So sorry to hear about the loss of your dad.  I won't be able to attend his service, but I will be there in spirit.  I am certain that he is already being welcomed "home" by those of the Greatest Generation who have gone before, my own father included.  Please accept my most sincere condolances on your loss.

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