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lmorgan100(at)charter.net
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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:16 am Post subject: twinstar MK II info |
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Hi All,
I am still in the process of rebuilding a Mark II twinstar that I purchased last fall.
I just finished new covering on the wings and am ready to paint them. My question is this,
what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such as VNE and also how to calculate weight and balance.
I am sure it has been asked before but I could not locate the info.
thanks for any help,
Lee..
CGS Hawk,
Goldwing,
Vector
quicksilver mx
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cristalclear13
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: twinstar MK II info |
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| lmorgan100(at)charter.net wrote: | Hi All,
what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such as VNE and also how to calculate weight and balance.
I am sure it has been asked before but I could not locate the info.
thanks for any help,
Lee..
CGS Hawk,
Goldwing,
Vector
quicksilver mx
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Hi Lee,
I asked similar questions 4-5 years ago. Mike Roper provided some stats that he had in this thread:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135429&highlight=#135429
I also had a scan (don't remember where I got it) from the Mark II kit. I will attempt to attach it here. I don't know if it was for a kit that was enclosed or open though. My stats were closer to what Mike provided.
I got several answers when asking about the level flight attitude to do the weight and balance. You can weed through them. I never did measure the exact angle, but took an educated guess.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142161&highlight=#142161
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Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 - sold Sept 2012
Private Pilot Aug 2008
ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
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cristalclear13
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: twinstar MK II info |
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| lmorgan100(at)charter.net wrote: | Hi All,
and also how to calculate weight and balance.
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Not sure if I answered your question fully the first time. If you mean you want the directions for how to do a weight and balance (like you don't know where to start), then Mike Huffman from Sport Aviation Specialities has a great article:
http://www.sportaviationspecialties.com/May_07_%20Wt_&_Bal_for_E-LSA.pdf
And even if you know how to do it, it has some great points and reminders that someone might forget about when doing it. Page 3 starts the detailed instructions.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:57 am Post subject: twinstar MK II info |
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what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such >>
Does no one ever think of asking the manufacturers this sort of stuff?.
. They have all this at their fingertips and would be delighted to have another owners name and address. to add to their data bank. They can supply or put you in touch with the suppliers of anything you may need and will help you in any way they can. They are nice people and in these straightened times could probably do with anything which may lead to a sale.
Pat
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herbgh(at)nctc.com
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:16 am Post subject: twinstar MK II info |
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Pat
I think the Mk II is an orphan... The design died back at the
old Kolb factory...same with the earlier Ultra Star... The last I
knew the New New Kolb will build and support the Two versions of the
MKIII,. the Firestar and its variants and the Firefly...Might even
build a Kolbra or Slingshot? Good question for Travis...what's in
the stable? Then again...they are likely at Sun N Fun... Herb
At 06:57 AM 3/28/2012, you wrote:
| Quote: | what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such >>
Does no one ever think of asking the manufacturers this sort of stuff?.
. They have all this at their fingertips and would be delighted to
have another owners name and address. to add to their data bank.
They can supply or put you in touch with the suppliers of anything
you may need and will help you in any way they can. They are nice
people and in these straightened times could probably do with
anything which may lead to a sale.
Pat
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cristalclear13
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:25 am Post subject: Re: twinstar MK II info |
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| pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote: | what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such >>
Does no one ever think of asking the manufacturers this sort of stuff?.
. They have all this at their fingertips
Pat
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Actually I remembered last night that the scan I provided did come from the only specs documentation Travis or Dennis from The New Kolb Aircraft Co. had on the Mark II Twinstar.
The New Kolb Aircraft Co. never did sell the Mark II kit (it was before their time), but they will help as much as possible since they do have information about it. They have always been very helpful with me when I had a question or needed a part.
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herbgh(at)nctc.com
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:44 am Post subject: twinstar MK II info |
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The wing is quite similar to the Firestar and Firefly version...Same
ribs and same spar... 5 inch... Root rib is different, but the new
Firestar version should work...Drag spar and main spar H section
could be the same as the Firestar II? Near as I know there are
only two rib designs in all of the Kolbs from the US
forward... So...NNK can sell you ribs, spars and boom tubes for
them... Aluminum tubing naturally..Cro Molly too... Landing gear
legs....Wheels and brakes... Spar to lift strut bolts...H sections...
for spar and tail boom... All that I can think of at the
moment. Travis loves to sell parts...!!  Herb
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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such >>
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> Does no one ever think of asking the manufacturers this sort of stuff?.
> . They have all this at their fingertips
> Pat
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Actually I remembered last night that the scan I provided did come
from the only specs documentation Travis or Dennis from The New Kolb
Aircraft Co. had on the Mark II Twinstar.
The New Kolb Aircraft Co. never did sell the Mark II kit (it was
before their time), but they will help as much as possible since
they do have information about it. They have always been very
helpful with me when I had a question or needed a part.
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007
Private Pilot Aug 2008
ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009
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byoungplumbing(at)gmail.c
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:52 am Post subject: twinstar MK II info |
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lmorgan100(at)charter.net wrote:
| Quote: | Hi All,
what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such as VNE and also how to calculate weight and balance.
I am sure it has been asked before but I could not locate the info.
thanks for any help,
Lee..
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after reading this mornings mail, something happened and the light turned on...[ reverse senior moment] I went to my archive and found an article, I am guessing it is a reprint from ultra light flying magazine December 1993, there are 4 pages 11 X 17 on the firestar II the specifications is a small corner of the last page.
Firestar II
(with two seats)
specifications
engine rotax 447
wing span 27 ft 8 in
wing area 149 sq ft
length 20 ft 3 in
empty weight 275 lbs
gross weight 725 lbs
fuel capacity 10 gal
cruise speed 60 mph
vne 90 mph
rate of climb 650 fpm ( with 2 people)
takeoff distance 250 ft (with two people )
Kolb Company
Phoenixvile, pa
it would take some time but I could scan the article in sections and send to any one who would need it.
boyd y
mkiii
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lmorgan100(at)charter.net
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:02 am Post subject: twinstar MK II info |
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Thanks everyone for the replies, I think I have most of the info that I need.
I don't know why I didn't check with the Kolb company first for this info, because I have definitely spent enough
money for parts already. I do know that their info on the Mark II is limited.
thanks again,
Lee..
CGS Hawk, Goldwing, Vector, Quicksiver mx and soon Twinstar MK II
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