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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject: Tragic loss in Tx

Having served in and around AF/ANG fighter squadrons for 28 of my 32 1/2 years of service as well as being a Safety Investigation Board member (SIB) on 10 different class A aircraft accidents there is a pat process that takes place over the thirty day investigation process. Every effort is made to respect the family during their time of loss. Saying that however there is also an expected flow of information from the board president to the ACC commander and Safety ( then it was TAC headquarters). An 8 hour report,, a 72 hour report, 7 day, 14 day, 21 day were released for dissemination to the squadrons. The final 30 day report was delivered in person by the board president to the CC of TAC. That report explored all of the aspects of the accident. 

My point is information flowed to the individual squadrons' safety officers and hence the pilots around the world. Why? To help each squadron and each pilot learn from the facts of the accident ( mistakes and/or correct actions taken by the accident pilot along with any mechanical findings). Human factors and mechanical findings were released. Feelings were checked at the door. The facts were given without editorial comment. An asset and a pilot was lost to injury or was dead so information needed to be released so the squadrons could learn from the mistakes of others. 

The thing I HATE about the FAA's process is information is seldom released and the damned investigation takes a year to complete. When it is completed one has to filter through tons of minutiae to find an answer. 

So for now check the touchy feelie PC feelings and state the facts. As it stands right now a F9F is  a pile of useless burnt metal after becoming a smoking hole. Did the pilot do a snap roll on take off and auger in? Rumor...Yes I said rumor...says he did. Fact...he is dead and his family is grieving. The other fact is we do not have a clue as to why he boxed. Just rumors.

So, shut the F#%€ up and Wait on the painfully slow bureaucratic FAA to grind their way through this investigation. Maybe this time next year we will have an answer as to why this pilot and aircraft was lost. 

Bet you thought I was going to blame the dead man didn't you? Not yet! I can only speculate for now so I'll shut the F#%€ up. 

Doc



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jan.mevis(at)informavia.b
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:12 am Post subject: Tragic loss in Tx

Yesterday, a very good friend crashed in his helicopter while taking a professional photographer for a photoshoot. He touched the cables of an aerial tramway.



This pilot was probably one of the most experienced helicopter pilots in my country, retired military helicopter pilot with a lot of missions in Somalia, Congo, the Balkan. 



He had his own school, and he was a very diligent and correct person and teacher.



As Doc describes, we all would like to know what happened exactly in such cases but maybe we'll never know for sure. We have to wait patiently for answers and certainly not start speculating. 



What is more important: the grief and pain of the mourning family and friends. 



I'll have to do with the great memories of past times spent with Jean-Yves.



Jan



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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: Tragic loss in Tx

Aviation is not particularly unsafe, but it is terribly unforgiving. Y'all be careful out there.



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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:20 pm Post subject: Tragic loss in Tx

Roger that ,Brian. I had that very though as I lit the fire to do a FCF after completing the condition inspection. Said the fighter pilots prayer before T.O. "Please Lord don't let me F#%€ up."

Happy Easter Y'all,

Doc



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On Apr 7, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Brian Lloyd <brian(at)lloyd.com (brian(at)lloyd.com)> wrote:



[quote]Aviation is not particularly unsafe, but it is terribly unforgiving. Y'all be careful out there.



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Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL

3191 Western Dr.

Cameron Park, CA 95682

brian(at)lloyd.com (brian(at)lloyd.com)

 +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)

+1.916.877.5067 (USA)



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ChangDriver

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Tragic loss in Tx

While we may never know exactly what happened to Howard Pardue, I did discuss the accident with a friend of his that flew a missing man with me this weekend.  He said that he'd be very surprised if Howard would ever do a low level roll on takeoff.  He said it would have been a medical or mechanical failure for him to roll at such a low altitude.  Howard had countless hours in that Bearcat and knew it's performance envelope well.



Interesting too is I am told that his airplane was the prototype for the Bearcat so it was the XF8F.



Here is his obit...



http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/reporternews/obituary.aspx?n=howard-edwards-pardue&pid=156885590

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