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philperry9

Joined: 23 Nov 2011
Posts: 381

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:15 am Post subject: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)

Hi Everyone,



I'm having some custom length vernier cables manufactured by McFarlane and need some basic measurements from Vans stock cables before I can proceed.



Does anyone have a set of cables that are not installed and who can make some measurements for me?  I had no idea it was this complex of a process.

 

Attached to this message is the McFarlane spec sheet for their cables.  



Once I get the basic measurements from a stock set of cables, I can figure out the rest.  I'll be happy to share all the dimensions for the future builders so they don't have to go through the process.

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

Phil

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Bob Turner

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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)

One caution: I bought the stock cables  with the Firewall Forward kit, and they were not long enough to route as shown in the plans. I made them fit, but it is a little tighter than I would have liked. And I think I'm not the only one who has had this problem.

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philperry9

Joined: 23 Nov 2011
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:49 am Post subject: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)

That's exactly the reason I'm getting custom length cables made.



On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu (bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu)> wrote:

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 One caution: I bought the stock cables  with the Firewall Forward kit, and they were not long enough to route as shown in the plans. I made them fit, but it is a little tighter than I would have liked. And I think I'm not the only one who has had this problem.

   

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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)

Hi Phil,

I will measure mine for you tonight. I think that I am going to have the same problem as I have the Aerosport Products Carbon Fibre Panel

and the Cables sit a little lower and a little further rearwards than the stock support bracket.

 

Cheers

 

John MacCallum

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry

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To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)



 

Hi Everyone,



I'm having some custom length vernier cables manufactured by McFarlane and need some basic measurements from Vans stock cables before I can proceed.



Does anyone have a set of cables that are not installed and who can make some measurements for me?  I had no idea it was this complex of a process.



Attached to this message is the McFarlane spec sheet for their cables.  



Once I get the basic measurements from a stock set of cables, I can figure out the rest.  I'll be happy to share all the dimensions for the future builders so they don't have to go through the process.



Thanks in advance for your help!

Phil

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sean(at)stephensville.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:46 am Post subject: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)

John, check out the third to last post in this thread from Ivan.  Phil, 

there may be some info in there for you also.



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321568



-Sean #40303 (fitting doors)



On 4/18/12 2:23 AM, John MacCallum wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 Hi Phil,



 I will measure mine for you tonight. I think that I am going to have 

 the same problem as I have the Aerosport Products Carbon Fibre Panel



 and the Cables sit a little lower and a little further rearwards than 

 the stock support bracket.



 Cheers



 John MacCallum



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 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Phillip Perry

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 *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 *Subject:* Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture 

 (Vernier)



 Hi Everyone,



 I'm having some custom length vernier cables manufactured by McFarlane 

 and need some basic measurements from Vans stock cables before I can 

 proceed.



 Does anyone have a set of cables that are not installed and who can 

 make some measurements for me?  I had no idea it was this complex of a 

 process.



 Attached to this message is the McFarlane spec sheet for their cables.



 Once I get the basic measurements from a stock set of cables, I can 

 figure out the rest.  I'll be happy to share all the dimensions for 

 the future builders so they don't have to go through the process.



 Thanks in advance for your help!

 Phil



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philperry9

Joined: 23 Nov 2011
Posts: 381

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:38 am Post subject: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)

Thanks John...



Sean, I've seen that post and I'm using those lengths for my final lengths, but there are a few more measurements that McFarlane is looking for and I can't get them without having my hands on a set of controls to measure.

 

Phil



On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com (sean(at)stephensville.com)> wrote:

[quote]  --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com (sean(at)stephensville.com)>

 

 John, check out the third to last post in this thread from Ivan.  Phil, there may be some info in there for you also.

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321568

 

 -Sean #40303 (fitting doors)

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maca2790

Joined: 26 Jan 2011
Posts: 59
Location: Australia

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)

Thanks Sean and thank you Ivan. I think I will have to go with the 3 " 

extension to all the cables.  I'm not sure if Vans will take the others back

after 2 years .



Phil I measured my cables but they don,t have the firewall wear sleeves or

the Clamp reduced diameter Dimension E.



Throttle is 47.5 " Extended  Dimension B + C   Dim D is 6" (retracted)



Prop 72.5"  B + C Extended Dim D is 6 " (retracted)



Mixture 51.5 B + C  and D is 6"  (retracted)



cheers



John MacCallum

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philperry9

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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:05 am Post subject: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)

Very Helpful - Thank you!



I'm guessing there wasn't a protective sleeve for the firewall penetration on the factory cables?



Thanks,

Phil





On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:23 PM, maca2790 <vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au (vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au)> wrote:

 [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "maca2790" <vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au (vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au)>

  

 Thanks Sean and thank you Ivan. I think I will have to go with the 3 "

 extension to all the cables.  I'm not sure if Vans will take the others back

 after 2 years .

 

 Phil I measured my cables but they don,t have the firewall wear sleeves or

 the Clamp reduced diameter Dimension E.

 

 Throttle is 47.5 " Extended  Dimension B + C   Dim D is 6" (retracted)

 

 Prop 72.5"  B + C Extended Dim D is 6 " (retracted)

 

 Mixture 51.5 B + C  and D is 6"  (retracted)

 

 cheers

 

 John MacCallum

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larkrv10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)

Guys, I've just started on the firewall construction.  Do any of the aftermarket (non Vans type) cables require different sized holes through the firewall recess (F-1001K)?

 

Thx,  Rick

 #40956

Southampton, Ont

 

 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 [quote]Very Helpful - Thank you!



I'm guessing there wasn't a protective sleeve for the firewall penetration on the factory cables?

 

Thanks,

Phil





On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:23 PM, maca2790 <vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au (vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au)> wrote:

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		  --> RV10-List message posted by: "maca2790" <vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au (vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au)>

   

 Thanks Sean and thank you Ivan. I think I will have to go with the 3 "

 extension to all the cables.  I'm not sure if Vans will take the others back

 after 2 years .

 

 Phil I measured my cables but they don,t have the firewall wear sleeves or

 the Clamp reduced diameter Dimension E.

 

 Throttle is 47.5 " Extended  Dimension B + C   Dim D is 6" (retracted)

 

 Prop 72.5"  B + C Extended Dim D is 6 " (retracted)

 

 Mixture 51.5 B + C  and D is 6"  (retracted)

 

 cheers

 

 John MacCallum

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maca2790

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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:07 am Post subject: Re: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)

G'day Rick

There are quite a few different options for cables and some do require

larger holes. My QB Fuselage already had the pilot holes drilled into the firewall for the cables so I'm going with the Vans plans for the holes.



I have sent the cables supplied with the FF back and I will be using the VANS type cables from Aircraft spruce but 3 inches longer than the original ones supplied from Vans.  



If you have a look at the Aircraft Spruce web page you will get some idea of the different types available.



Phil, yes your right there were no firewall wear sleeves on Vans Cables.

What they say to do in the Plans is to put an SB500 inside a SB625 and then to fill it with heat proof RTV.



cheers

John MacCallum

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rleffler

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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: Measurements Needed - Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Vernier)

Typically not.    However there are a variety of devices available to protect the cables and to minimize co into the cabin that require different spacing if you choose to use them.



Sent from my iPad



On Apr 19, 2012, at 10:57 PM, Rick Lark <larkrv10(at)gmail.com (larkrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



[quote]Guys, I've just started on the firewall construction.  Do any of the aftermarket (non Vans type) cables require different sized holes through the firewall recess (F-1001K)?

 

Thx,  Rick

 #40956

Southampton, Ont

 

 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Very Helpful - Thank you!



I'm guessing there wasn't a protective sleeve for the firewall penetration on the factory cables?

 

Thanks,

Phil





On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:23 PM, maca2790 <vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au (vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au)> wrote:

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		  --> RV10-List message posted by: "maca2790" <vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au (vk2gcn(at)cirruscomms.com.au)>

   

 Thanks Sean and thank you Ivan. I think I will have to go with the 3 "

 extension to all the cables.  I'm not sure if Vans will take the others back

 after 2 years .

 

 Phil I measured my cables but they don,t have the firewall wear sleeves or

 the Clamp reduced diameter Dimension E.

 

 Throttle is 47.5 " Extended  Dimension B + C   Dim D is 6" (retracted)

 

 Prop 72.5"  B + C Extended Dim D is 6 " (retracted)

 

 Mixture 51.5 B + C  and D is 6"  (retracted)

 

 cheers

 

 John MacCallum

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