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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:01 am    Post subject: Hour meter ground Reply with quote

I have finished all the wiring of using Z-17 for a Rotax 582 powered LSA. The last thing I have is to install is the hour meter. It's a Westach 2C10-2 that I want to run off the AC side of the voltage regulator. Can I use the instrument panel ground bus or should I give it its own ground. Should I put a diode on the instrument panel ground? Should I use a shielded wire for the power connection?

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Hour meter ground Reply with quote

At 12:56 PM 5/2/2012, you wrote:
Quote:
I have finished all the wiring of using Z-17 for a Rotax 582 powered
LSA. The last thing I have is to install is the hour meter. It's a
Westach 2C10-2 that I want to run off the AC side of the voltage
regulator. Can I use the instrument panel ground bus or should I
give it its own ground. Should I put a diode on the instrument panel
ground? Should I use a shielded wire for the power connection?

If you run it directly off the two AC wires from
the PM alternator. No grounding necessary. No shielding
necessary. Don't the instructions for it describe
an AC connection?

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:47 am    Post subject: Hour meter ground Reply with quote

Bob, Yes, as you can see they show one side of the AC leg going to ground.

Rick

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At 12:56 PM 5/2/2012, you wrote:
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I have finished all the wiring of using Z-17 for a Rotax 582 powered LSA. The last thing I have is to install is the hour meter. It's a Westach 2C10-2 that I want to run off the AC side of the voltage regulator. Can I use the instrument panel ground bus or should I give it its own ground. Should I put a diode on the instrument panel ground? Should I use a shielded wire for the power connection?


  If you run it directly off the two AC wires from
  the PM alternator. No grounding necessary. No shielding
  necessary. Don't the instructions for it describe
  an AC connection?



 Bob . . .

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject: Hour meter ground Reply with quote

Not exactly. Read the Note on the drawing you provided. They say IF one leg of the AC is grounded then pin 5 should go to the grounded leg. It doesn’t say that it should be grounded, only that if it is then pin 5 is the grounded pin.

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Bob, Yes, as you can see they show one side of the AC leg going to ground.


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At 12:56 PM 5/2/2012, you wrote:
I have finished all the wiring of using Z-17 for a Rotax 582 powered LSA. The last thing I have is to install is the hour meter. It's a Westach 2C10-2 that I want to run off the AC side of the voltage regulator. Can I use the instrument panel ground bus or should I give it its own ground. Should I put a diode on the instrument panel ground? Should I use a shielded wire for the power connection?


If you run it directly off the two AC wires from
the PM alternator. No grounding necessary. No shielding
necessary. Don't the instructions for it describe
an AC connection?



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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Hour meter ground Reply with quote

Thanks, Bob, I didn't catch the note.

Rick

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Bob McCallum
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*Not exactly. Read the Note on the drawing you provided. They say IF one
leg of the AC is grounded then pin 5 should go to the grounded leg. It
doesn’t say that it should be grounded, only that if it is then pin 5 is
the grounded pin.*

* *

*Bob McC*

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Bob, Yes, as you can see they show one side of the AC leg going to ground


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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Hour meter ground Reply with quote

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Bob, Yes, as you can see they show one side of the AC leg going to ground.

Rick

Hmmm . . . separate winding for the tachometer. Your
AC power to the rectifier/regulator cannot be grounded
on one side so that you can have full-wave rectification.
This tach coil is a very low power source. Do you have
an electronic tach reading this output too? In any case,
exactly where it grounds (if at all) is of little
consequence. These two systems are neither potential
antagonists nor victims. Does your tach wiring call out
grounding of one side of the signal wire?

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:30 am    Post subject: Hour meter ground Reply with quote

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
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The tach has its own signal wire. None of the Rotax wiring diagrams for the various regulators has an AC going to ground. As pointed out, the note on the drawing for the hour meter says if one of the AC feed wires is grounded that wire is used for pin 5 on the meter. Otherwise the two AC wires feed the meter and it makes no difference which goes to the meter connections.


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At 02:46 PM 5/2/2012, you wrote:
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Bob, Yes, as you can see they show one side of the AC leg going to ground.

Rick

 Hmmm . . . separate winding for the tachometer. Your
 AC power to the rectifier/regulator cannot be grounded
 on one side so that you can have full-wave rectification.
 This tach coil is a very low power source. Do you have
 an electronic tach reading this output too? In any case,
 exactly where it grounds (if at all) is of little
 consequence. These two systems are neither potential
 antagonists nor victims. Does your tach wiring call out
 grounding of one side of the signal wire?



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