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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:32 am Post subject: finding buried ac line |
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I didn't see any message that answered the question, did I miss it?
The last time the power company "located" my service line for the fence company, they totally missed it by 100 feet, and the fence company was about to power drill right into the service line. Luckily I came home for lunch and yelled to stop and had to argue with the crew chief "I don't care what the power company said, I was personally here when the line was run 15 years ago and its right along this line".
So I too would be interested in this off topic answer. Skip Simpson
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1. 04:28 AM - Re: ATC on a bracket (Jay Hyde)
2. 04:28 AM - Intermittent no radio reception (bakerocb)
3. 06:21 AM - Re: Intermittent no radio reception (Bill Bradburry)
4. 09:38 AM - Re: Intermittent no radio reception (Ed Holyoke)
5. 09:40 AM - SSF-1 WIG WAG Flasher (Dick Wildman)
6. 11:08 AM - Finding a 220 volt buried line (DCS317(at)aol.com)
7. 11:36 AM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (Dick Wildman)
8. 11:53 AM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (JOHN TIPTON)
9. 11:58 AM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (ROGER & JEAN CURTIS)
10. 12:01 PM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (Bob McCallum)
11. 12:18 PM - Re: SSF-1 WIG WAG Flasher (Joe Dubner)
12. 12:42 PM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (Michael Welch)
13. 12:55 PM - Re: Intermittent no radio reception (Bill Bradburry)
14. 02:26 PM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (F. Tim Yoder)
15. 02:33 PM - Re: Intermittent no radio reception (David Lloyd)
16. 04:12 PM - Re: Intermittent no radio reception (Henador Titzoff)
17. 04:16 PM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (Paul Millner)
18. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: SSF-1 WIG WAG Flasher (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
19. 06:29 PM - Re: Z-13/8 (fedico94(at)mchsi.com)
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From: "Jay Hyde" <jay(at)horriblehyde.com>
Subject: RE: ATC on a bracket
That's a great idea- you could also cut away the little circular bits on the
side and gang the fuses in a row...
Jay
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harley(at)AgelessWings.co Guest
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:04 am Post subject: finding buried ac line |
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Morning, Skip...
First, as a reminder to all when replying to messages received in the daily digest format, try not to send in the entire digest, as you did. I don't know how it works in other email programs, but in Thunderbird it's easy without doing any deleting...just highlight the portion of the message you want to reply to, then when you hit the reply button, it only uses the highlighted text...as I have done here.
Anyway...the same thing happened to my father about 15 years ago when he was digging a ditch to install a water curtain. The local power company marked the location of his underground service, but the backhoe still broke the main line, even though he was digging 10 feet from it!
However, they apparently have better sensing equipment now, as when Dad's neighbor expanded his pond a few years ago the power company got their lines marked exactly. I've also seen a couple here in my neighborhood, and at a friend's house across town, where they got it located perfectly...in two cases, to actually dig up the line to replace it. When they dug down, they were right on top of what they wanted to repair.
So, they have gotten better over the years, and I definitely would call the power company, gas company, cable company, whatever you have buried in your yard (and don't forget the septic system, if you have one!) before digging or drilling. At least if you hit their service after they mark it in the wrong place, you can blame them!
Harley Dixon
Long EZ N28EZ...IT'S ALIVE!
Powered up the newly wired, all electric instrument panel yesterday... and it all worked! Next...reinstall the engine.
On 5/14/2012 7:30 AM, CardinalNSB(at)aol.com (CardinalNSB(at)aol.com) wrote: [quote] I didn't see any message that answered the question, did I miss it?
The last time the power company "located" my service line for the fence company, they totally missed it by 100 feet, and the fence company was about to power drill right into the service line. Luckily I came home for lunch and yelled to stop and had to argue with the crew chief "I don't care what the power company said, I was personally here when the line was run 15 years ago and its right along this line".
So I too would be interested in this off topic answer. Skip Simpson
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:19 am Post subject: finding buried ac line |
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I didn't see any message that answered the question, did I miss it?
[quote] Yup, you missed it!! Short answer is, call your utility and ask about the free buried utilities locater service. They may not be right, occasionally, but most of the time they hit it. In most cases it is the law that you must contact them before digging or be liable for damages to buried lines. Roger Do not archive[b]
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:12 am Post subject: finding buried ac line |
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I've used a oscilloscope to find buried 220 volt lines down a couple of
feet. Don't remember details but believe I just used a coil. Might have
been an AM antenna out of an old radio, the kind with a coil wrapped on
a ferrite rod directly connected to an old oscilloscope.
For drain pipes I've pushed in a solid length of fence wire and
connected it to a bench top homemade signal generator putting out around
15.7 khz. Then I used an scope as above but with a similar wound
antenna that I had made for picking up (and syncing) to crt tube TV
scanning frequencies of around 15.7 khz. THose scanning frequencies were
extremely accurate for national tv networks and could be used for fine
tuning crystal oscillators. This might have been the same antenna that
I used for the AC line location.
Perhaps I was lucky but I was surprised at how simple it was to find ac
lines with a sensitive receiver or scope on my own property.
Ken
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On 14/05/2012 7:30 AM, CardinalNSB(at)aol.com wrote:
Quote: | I didn't see any message that answered the question, did I miss it?
The last time the power company "located" my service line for the fence
company, they totally missed it by 100 feet, and the fence company was
about to power drill right into the service line. Luckily I came home
for lunch and yelled to stop and had to argue with the crew chief "I
don't care what the power company said, I was personally here when the
line was run 15 years ago and its right along this line".
So I too would be interested in this off topic answer. Skip Simpson
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mmayfield
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: finding buried ac line |
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My local sparky located our 240v underground mains cable to within a few cm both laterally and depth. He has a cable locating device. He charged a very modest fee (can't remember how much).
So try calling a couple of friendly neighbourhood electricians. If they don't have the gear, they may know someone who does.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:02 am Post subject: finding buried ac line |
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After whatever service you use (JULIE) in my area, still be very careful.
Local Power company was installing a new utility pole at the end of my driveway, had the professional marking done, proceeded to start drilling the pole hole, and then a loud ‘clang’ followed by a loud hissing noise, because they broke the natural gas line. Happened at 8 am and it was 3 pm before they got the gas shut off.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase one testing Completed
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Subject: RE: finding buried ac line
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[quote] Yup, you missed it!! Short answer is, call your utility and ask about the free buried utilities locater service. They may not be right, occasionally, but most of the time they hit it. In most cases it is the law that you must contact them before digging or be liable for damages to buried lines. Roger Do not archive
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