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1planeguy(at)kilocharlie.
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: Cheap covering job

Well I have a semi off topic post.  Can't think of anywhere where I     am more likely to get an intelligent answer than here so hang on...

     

     I have had an odd job thrown in my lap.  I have a CNC router table     and got ask to make a fairly large scale Gee Bee R1 racer display     model.  Hanging from the ceiling will be as close to "airworthy" as     it will ever need to be...so certified procedure and design went out     the window.  I am about done cutting the pieces out and will start     assembly tonight, but I am going to have to cover this rascal.  I     don't want to waste "Poly-stuff" on a display plane so thought I     would use dacron (sold by Aircraft Spruce for "peel-ply", because it     is cheap and heat shrinkable) and I plan to just do latex house     paint for color.  What would work good for a glue to attach this to     wood?

     

     

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Mike Welch

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:33 pm Post subject: Cheap covering job

Jeremy,



  I think the lightest-weight  non-certified polyester fabric that Aircraft Spruce sells might be

a better choice the the peel-ply.  The peel-ply has sort of a coating on it, which is why it peels

off fiberglass resin so well.  IIRC, ACS has 1.7 oz stuff that would work fine, or maybe the 2.7 oz.

  Since we are talking display model ONLY, I think if it were me, I'd try a hot glue gun and an iron.

If the heat of the hot glue makes it difficult to work with, then the next stuff I'd try is that yellow 

Carpenter's Glue that they sell at all the lumber stores.  It dries pretty quickly.

  Lastly, the fact is, the Poly Tac cement would probably work very well, too.  So would the clear 

PVC glue, which is obviously a very close chemical formula to the Poly Tac.   Since a small can

is only $3, give the PVC glue a try.

Mike Welch

On May 24, 2012, at 4:13 PM, 1planeguy wrote:

[quote]                    Well I have a semi off topic post.  Can't think of anywhere where I     am more likely to get an intelligent answer than here so hang on...

     

     I have had an odd job thrown in my lap.  I have a CNC router table     and got ask to make a fairly large scale Gee Bee R1 racer display     model.  Hanging from the ceiling will be as close to "airworthy" as     it will ever need to be...so certified procedure and design went out     the window.  I am about done cutting the pieces out and will start     assembly tonight, but I am going to have to cover this rascal.  I     don't want to waste "Poly-stuff" on a display plane so thought I     would use dacron (sold by Aircraft Spruce for "peel-ply", because it     is cheap and heat shrinkable) and I plan to just do latex house     paint for color.  What would work good for a glue to attach this to     wood?

     

     

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KiloCharlie Detailing, Inc.

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:33 pm Post subject: Cheap covering job

You should be talking to the model makers -- they'll likely have answers.





On May 24, 2012, at 5:13 PM, 1planeguy wrote:

[quote]                    Well I have a semi off topic post.  Can't think of anywhere where I     am more likely to get an intelligent answer than here so hang on...

     

     I have had an odd job thrown in my lap.  I have a CNC router table     and got ask to make a fairly large scale Gee Bee R1 racer display     model.  Hanging from the ceiling will be as close to "airworthy" as     it will ever need to be...so certified procedure and design went out     the window.  I am about done cutting the pieces out and will start     assembly tonight, but I am going to have to cover this rascal.  I     don't want to waste "Poly-stuff" on a display plane so thought I     would use dacron (sold by Aircraft Spruce for "peel-ply", because it     is cheap and heat shrinkable) and I plan to just do latex house     paint for color.  What would work good for a glue to attach this to     wood?

     

     

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: Cheap covering job

Mike, Sorry buddy but you're full of BS about peel ply. Here's the Spruce part number for  DACRON FULL WIDTH PEEL PLY 1.8 OZ #611 listed under Composites / fabric, p/n 09-00100 and the part number for 1.8 oz. polyester fabric under Covering Materials / fabric p/n 09-00100. Same stuff, no magic coatings, epoxy just doesn't stick to polyester. 



Rick Girard



On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:33 PM, kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com (russk50(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		                      Well I have a semi off topic post.  Can't think of anywhere where I     am more likely to get an intelligent answer than here so hang on...

     

     I have had an odd job thrown in my lap.  I have a CNC router table     and got ask to make a fairly large scale Gee Bee R1 racer display     model.  Hanging from the ceiling will be as close to "airworthy" as     it will ever need to be...so certified procedure and design went out     the window.  I am about done cutting the pieces out and will start     assembly tonight, but I am going to have to cover this rascal.  I     don't want to waste "Poly-stuff" on a display plane so thought I     would use dacron (sold by Aircraft Spruce for "peel-ply", because it     is cheap and heat shrinkable) and I plan to just do latex house     paint for color.  What would work good for a glue to attach this to     wood?

     

     

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: Cheap covering job

Just dope it on with butyrate dope from the local R/C hobby shop.  Use dope for the finish, too... better finish than latex and much cheaper than poly stuff.



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		  Well I have a semi off topic post.  Can't think of anywhere where I am more likely to get an intelligent answer than here so hang on...

 

 I have had an odd job thrown in my lap.  I have a CNC router table and got ask to make a fairly large scale Gee Bee R1 racer display model.  Hanging from the ceiling will be as close to "airworthy" as it will ever need to be...so certified procedure and design went out the window.  I am about done cutting the pieces out and will start assembly tonight, but I am going to have to cover this rascal.  I don't want to waste "Poly-stuff" on a display plane so thought I would use dacron (sold by Aircraft Spruce for "peel-ply", because it is cheap and heat shrinkable) and I plan to just do latex house paint for color.  What would work good for a glue to attach this to wood?



 

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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: Cheap covering job

Jeremy,

  

 I know a fella that uses regular hardware store 'Contact  Cement' to glue the fabric on his homebuilt.  Works well for him.  I  used Poly Tak on my Kolb.

   

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