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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: bonding fuselage top Reply with quote

Hi guys, Paul Munford here, kit 625 tri gear NG. I'm soon to bond the fuselage top & was wondering just how much resin to mix ??? Anyone out there done this job recently ? Also any tips on mixing large amounts of resin & flox for this job. Thanx in advance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: bonding fuselage top Reply with quote

Paul, What you really need is an extra pair of educated
hands (I.e. another builder) it is more a question of
getting it all spread on all the mating surfaces before it
begins to go off. Making a bit extra if needs be would be
a minor part of it. Do you have another builder living
nearby who could come and help? I assume you have got it
all lined up with cllecoes to hold it in position and that
you will cover the clecoes with grease to help get them
out when the resin is set but not brittle.
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ

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Hi guys, Paul Munford here, kit 625 tri gear NG. I'm
soon to bond the fuselage top & was wondering just how
much resin to mix ??? Anyone out there done this job
recently ? Also any tips on mixing large amounts of resin
& flox for this job. Thanx in advance.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:23 am    Post subject: bonding fuselage top Reply with quote

Hi Paul

Just a suggestion, if you don't want to risk gluing up your clecoes, small
self tapping screws work just as well. Pop them in a paper cup and give
them a good spray of WD40 before use.

Pete

PS David is quite correct it is a 2 man (sorry person!) job.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:25 pm    Post subject: bonding fuselage top Reply with quote

Unless you live somewhere cold, I would suggest mixing it in batches or get a few helpers, from memory I used about 400 gm for the whole
Thing (that’s mixed weight) in two batches, one for each side. That way you have plenty of time to apply it without worrying it will exotherm
In the mixing container

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craig

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Hi guys, Paul Munford here, kit 625 tri gear NG. I'm soon to bond the fuselage top & was wondering just how much resin to mix ??? Anyone out there done this job recently ? Also any tips on mixing large amounts of resin & flox for this job. Thanx in advance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject: bonding fuselage top Reply with quote

Hi! Paul
Can’t remember the amounts but if you use Redux then there’s no panic re time! And you can mix more as you go ! Don’t forget the light behind the joint to show where there’s no contact for bond.
The self tapper screws is a good tip.
Regards
Bob H arrison G-PTAG .....been there done that !!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: bonding fuselage top Reply with quote

Paul, some suggestion, do it with your room as cool as possible to give the process as much time without the glue going off. Rehearse the process first with several helpers. Don't try to mix the whole amount in one batch/container so as to be too hard to handle. If you have glued with redux before, you know how thick to get the glue with the flox. It is important not to be too thin or too thick. You probably aren't but don't use screws as they suck the skins down too tight leaving an indentation at each screw which has to be filled later. Scrape off extra glue that oozes out of seam but don't unduly disturb the fuselage skins in doing so.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:41 pm    Post subject: bonding fuselage top Reply with quote

There has been several other recent emails of good advice already.
Make sure you have all your needs on hand, brief your team carefully before
starting.
JR (Bob) Gowing Kit327 in Oz

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: bonding fuselage top Reply with quote

Paul

400 grams is about right. Mixing is the time consuming bit. Getting it on is easy with an icing bag and someone with cake decorating skills. See attached


Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
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