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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:33 am    Post subject: Bleeding brakes - best Method? Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

Can anyone recommend best method for bleeding brakes on a 601/650 or suggest sme reading material I can review?

I just spent 4 hours and got nowhere other than making a big freaking mess and wasting a quart of brake fluid.

Steve (really &^%ing frustrated) Freeman
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:38 pm    Post subject: Bleeding brakes - best Method? Reply with quote

Actually, I used a squeeze bottle from the local craft store, with some nylon tubing. Worked great (twice).

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Bleeding brakes - best Method? Reply with quote

Go to NAPA, Car Quest or any other store that sells a oil squiter can that has the pump on it.. Should cost 10 bucks or so,.... Get  flexible tubing that fits over the tip and fits the brake bleeder fitting on the caliper. Fill the oil squirter with brake fluid, remove the small plug from the top of the master cylinder and fill the system from the bottom up.. Took me about 5 minutes for my 801 and I got a brand new oil squirter after I finished the job.<G>

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Bleeding brakes - best Method? Reply with quote

Steve:

What type of brake fluid reservoir do you have?
I would recommend and use MIL-H-5606 fluid.
Use a Oil Can Pump and a  flexible hose and a fitting that locks on to the brake fitting at the brakes.


BLEED - PUMP from the bottom UP.
After you respond to the question I can tell you how to keep it clean.
Barry


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Can anyone recommend best method for bleeding brakes on a 601/650 or suggest sme reading material I can review?
 
I just spent 4 hours and got nowhere other than making a big freaking mess and wasting a quart of brake fluid.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Bleeding brakes - best Method? Reply with quote

Steve,

For some reason I can't explain airplane brakes are filled from the bottom and the fluid is forced up to the reservoir. This is just the opposite of the way cars are done.

Go figure.

Paul
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Hi Guys,

Can anyone recommend best method for bleeding brakes on a 601/650 or suggest sme reading material I can review?

I just spent 4 hours and got nowhere other than making a big freaking mess and wasting a quart of brake fluid.

Steve (really &^%ing frustrated) Freeman
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:16 pm    Post subject: Bleeding brakes - best Method? Reply with quote

Hi Paul:

If you think about it -.-.- It is very logical.
Cars are ground bound vehicles.  Gravity works in a downward direction pulling to the center of the earth.  So, by pumping the brake fluid from the top down you aid in keeping the car on the ground.
Planes are always trying to break the surly bonds of earth and by pumping the brake fluid up, you aid in reducing the effects of gravity and lightening the plane.
Simple huh!
Barry

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[quote] Steve,

For some reason I can't explain airplane brakes are filled from the bottom and the fluid is forced up to the reservoir.  This is just the opposite of the way cars are done. 

Go figure.

Paul
XL in phase I flight test.

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Hi Guys,
 
Can anyone recommend best method for bleeding brakes on a 601/650 or suggest sme reading material I can review?
 
I just spent 4 hours and got nowhere other than making a big freaking mess and wasting a quart of brake fluid.
 
Steve (really &^%ing frustrated) Freeman
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:01 am    Post subject: Bleeding brakes - best Method? Reply with quote

What ever you say, Barry.

I suppose you are one of those guys who jumps up in your seat to help
the plane get off the ground after rotating?

Paul

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If you think about it -.-.- It is very logical.
Cars are ground bound vehicles. Gravity works in a downward direction
pulling to the center of the earth. So, by pumping the brake fluid
from the top down you aid in keeping the car on the ground.
Planes are always trying to break the surly bonds of earth and by
pumping the brake fluid up, you aid in reducing the effects of gravity
and lightening the plane.

Simple huh!

Barry


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Bleeding brakes - best Method? Reply with quote

Ah Paul... We all know that does not work.

What I do is eat a light breakfast for the flight out and for lunch I drink seltzer because the bubbles go UP and the bubbles expand as the altitude increases.  Making the plane lighter.

Simple physics!
Barry
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What ever you say,  Barry.

I suppose you are one of those guys who jumps up in your seat to help the plane get off the ground after rotating?

Paul

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Hi Paul:

If you think about it -.-.- It is very logical.
Cars are ground bound vehicles.  Gravity works in a downward direction pulling to the center of the earth.  So, by pumping the brake fluid from the top down you aid in keeping the car on the ground.
Planes are always trying to break the surly bonds of earth and by pumping the brake fluid up, you aid in reducing the effects of gravity and lightening the plane.

Simple huh!

Barry


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Bleeding brakes - best Method? Reply with quote

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> Actually, gentlemen, the answer should be quite obvious. For best takeoff and general performance, when you get in the plane, never put your full weight down!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Bleeding brakes - best Method? Reply with quote

Paul:You are correct...  That is why we have Light Sport Aviation.
When people were forced to go to the M.E. they never put their "full weight down".
Barry

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[quote] Actually, gentlemen, the answer should be quite obvious. For best takeoff and general performance, when you get in the plane, never put your full weight down!
 
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