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Kelly McMullen



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:55 am    Post subject: OT Re:Guns (was Alaska ) Reply with quote

I agree with the use of common sense. On the other hand, why would you
see a need to have a permit system to allow open (unconcealed) carry?
Concealed carry, sure, but why when everyone can see your weapon and
whether you are pointing it appropriately at the ground or not. Plenty
of laws about inappropriate handling of guns already.
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On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49(at)msn.com> wrote:
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I have a problem with those that flaunt their guns in public. Just because
you can care a weapon to a rally to see the president speak or walk down the
middle of a subdivision carrying an AR-15, that doesn't mean that is prudent
to do so. Like a lot of things in life.....you have to use common sense. If
you feel the need to carry, then get the permit to do so like all the rest
of us!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:00 am    Post subject: OT Re:Guns (was Alaska ) Reply with quote

Fact:
Amendment II. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security
of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall
not be infringed. The Constitution of the United States, est 1776, as
Amended, 1791.

Opinion:
Seems right clear to me. I don't see a caveat for mode of carry.
Further, no reference to permits or certification that I can find - in
fact, "shall not be infringed" seems to expressly forbid those
restrictions.

neal
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:23 pm    Post subject: OT Re:Guns (was Alaska ) Reply with quote

I pushed a scout car around the City of Southfield MI for 28 years and am a firm believer and promoter of our Second Amendment Rights. Those that don't like this right are free to move to China or any other country that does not allow its "citizens" to arm themselves. That being said, I do plan on keeping a survival type light weight rifle in the baggage compartment of my RV-10. If I survive the crash in a remote area, I want to be able to defend and feed myself. God gave us the opportunity to be at the top of the food chain and that's where I intend to stay! Wink

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Fact:
Amendment II. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security
of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall
not be infringed. The Constitution of the United States, est 1776, as
Amended, 1791.

Opinion:
Seems right clear to me. I don't see a caveat for mode of carry.
Further, no reference to permits or certification that I can find - in
fact, "shall not be infringed" seems to expressly forbid those
restrictions.

neal
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:30 pm    Post subject: OT Re:Guns (was Alaska ) Reply with quote

Let's stick to airplanes. Google is starting to show me adds based on this off topic discussion.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:32 am    Post subject: Re: OT Re:Guns (was Alaska ) Reply with quote

WRT the "right" to bear arms, I think the meaning of "well regulated militia" has been somewhat lost in translation over the intervening 200+ years. But most people apparently prefer to ignore this fact.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:05 am    Post subject: OT Re:Guns (was Alaska ) Reply with quote

The US Supreme CT issued their opinion, which is the only one that
matters, twice within the past 5 years, affirming that folks for a long
time tried to tie the two clauses together. They affirmed it is an
individual right, not just a right if one was part of a militia.
So we can rack a gun in an RV-10 however we might wish. I kind of like
the old Corsair style, outside the prop arc so there is no worry about
syncing with the prop.

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WRT the "right" to bear arms, I think the meaning of "well regulated militia" has been somewhat lost in translation over the intervening 200+ years. But most people apparently prefer to ignore this fact.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:57 pm    Post subject: OT Re:Guns (was Alaska ) Reply with quote

Ohhhh, I thought it was the "right to arm bears".
Yeah, yeah........too early in the day for this.   Sad

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 03:32:11 -0700
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WRT the "right" to bear arms, I think the meaning of "well regulated militia" has been somewhat lost in translation over the intervening 200+ years. But most people apparently prefer to ignore this fact.

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