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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:13 pm    Post subject: Hobbs Meter Reply with quote

Hello. I have a Zodiac 601 HDS with an 80 HP Rotax 912. I bought it from the
builder 3 years ago. The gentleman who built it wired it so that the Hobbs meter runs when the
master switch is on. Once he left the master on overnight and that ran the Hobbs overnight so he
made a separate switch for the Hobbs by taking over a switch that had been used for Nav lights.
I would like to rewire the Nav lights. I have heard that the Hobbs should not be wired to the Master but
should only run when the engine is engaged.
What say you, members of the jury? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:19 pm    Post subject: Hobbs Meter Reply with quote

You can hook it up with the oil pressure sensor so it will only run when it has oil pressure


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Hobbs Meter Reply with quote

Thanks. That is just what I was looking for.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: Hobbs Meter Reply with quote

Damien:

Why do you have a Hobbs meter anyway?  Schools use a Hobbs Meter for charging students.  All you need are a TACH Hrs.
Pull the Hobbs, save the weight and SELL IT.
BTW - Hobbs Meters are hooked up to a Oil Pressure Switch so they start and stop recording when the engine is running.


Barry

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Damien <dgraham7(at)twcny.rr.com (dgraham7(at)twcny.rr.com)> wrote:
[quote] Hello. I have a Zodiac 601 HDS with an 80 HP Rotax 912. I bought it from the
builder 3 years ago. The gentleman who built it wired it so that the Hobbs meter runs when the
master switch is on. Once he left the master on overnight and that ran the Hobbs overnight so he
made a separate switch for the Hobbs by taking over a switch that had been used for Nav lights.
I would like to rewire the Nav lights. I have heard that the Hobbs should not be wired to the Master but
should only run when the engine is engaged.
What say you, members of the jury? Thanks.
Regards,
Damien
N48TK
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Hobbs Meter Reply with quote

Thanks. I will look into that.
Regards,
Damien
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[quote]Damien:

Why do you have a Hobbs meter anyway? Schools use a Hobbs Meter for charging students. All you need are a TACH Hrs.
Pull the Hobbs, save the weight and SELL IT.
BTW - Hobbs Meters are hooked up to a Oil Pressure Switch so they start and stop recording when the engine is running.


Barry

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Damien <[url=mailto:dgraham7(at)twcny.rr.com]dgraham7(at)twcny.rr.com (dgraham7(at)twcny.rr.com)[/url]> wrote:
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Hello. I have a Zodiac 601 HDS with an 80 HP Rotax 912. I bought it from the
builder 3 years ago. The gentleman who built it wired it so that the Hobbs meter runs when the
master switch is on. Once he left the master on overnight and that ran the Hobbs overnight so he
made a separate switch for the Hobbs by taking over a switch that had been used for Nav lights.
I would like to rewire the Nav lights. I have heard that the Hobbs should not be wired to the Master but
should only run when the engine is engaged.
What say you, members of the jury? Thanks.
Regards,
Damien
N48TK

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:24 pm    Post subject: Hobbs Meter Reply with quote

  If you have the UMA Taco, It has a yellow wire to connect to the Hour Meter, This produses power to the meter over 2800rpm, and is perfect.


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You can hook it up with the oil pressure sensor so it will only run when it has oil pressure


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:02 am    Post subject: Hobbs Meter Reply with quote

Richard:

Will you direct us to an exact link that has a UMA Hobbs Meter that records at over 2800 RPM?  I searched ACS and nothing popped up.
Thanks,
Barry

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Richard Wheelwright <rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk (rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk)> wrote:
[quote]    If you have the UMA Taco, It has a yellow wire to connect to the Hour Meter, This produses power to the meter over 2800rpm, and is perfect.

 
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You can hook it up with  the oil pressure sensor so it will only run when it has oil pressure
 

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject: Hobbs Meter Reply with quote

Barry,
I have the 2 1/4" Air Core 270° Movement with just the bear wires from the rear of the instrument. The Yellow wire is the 12V (turned on automatically) Output at 1800 RPM. The Wiring diagram below shows a 9pin Sub D connector with pin 4 showing the Taco output. I hope this helps.

http://www.umainstruments.com/pdf/UMA_DB9-Tach_wiring.pdf


http://www.umainstruments.com/Tachometer.htm



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Richard:

Will you direct us to an exact link that has a UMA Hobbs Meter that records at over 2800 RPM? I searched ACS and nothing popped up.


Thanks,
Barry

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Richard Wheelwright <rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk (rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk)> wrote:
[quote] If you have the UMA Taco, It has a yellow wire to connect to the Hour Meter, This produses power to the meter over 2800rpm, and is perfect.


====================

Richard Wheelwright
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Subject: Re: Hobbs Meter

You can hook it up with the oil pressure sensor so it will only run when it has oil pressure


Ellery Batchelder Jr.




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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:41 pm    Post subject: Hobbs Meter Reply with quote

Richard:

Yes, it does help.  I did find the HOURMETER on ACS.  The ACS site does not mention the RPM when it starts recording nor do they mention if a sensor is required.  They are becoming more and more of a catalog shop and loosing contact with the builders.


Thanks Rich,
Barry

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Richard Wheelwright <rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk (rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk)> wrote:
[quote]Barry,
    I have the 2 1/4" Air Core 270° Movement with just the bear wires from the rear of the instrument. The Yellow wire is the 12V (turned on automatically) Output at 1800 RPM. The Wiring diagram below shows a 9pin Sub D connector with pin 4 showing the Taco output. I hope this helps.
 
http://www.umainstruments.com/pdf/UMA_DB9-Tach_wiring.pdf
 
 
http://www.umainstruments.com/Tachometer.htm
 

 
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To: rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com (rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012, 13:01
Subject: Re: Hobbs Meter


Richard:

Will you direct us to an exact link that has a UMA Hobbs Meter that records at over 2800 RPM?  I searched ACS and nothing popped up.


Thanks,


Barry

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Richard Wheelwright <rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk (rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk)> wrote:


[quote]    If you have the UMA Taco, It has a yellow wire to connect to the Hour Meter, This produses power to the meter over 2800rpm, and is perfect.

 
====================

Richard Wheelwright
====================





From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com (elleryweld(at)aol.com)>
To: rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com (rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, 23 June 2012, 22:18
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Hobbs Meter



You can hook it up with  the oil pressure sensor so it will only run when it has oil pressure
 

Ellery Batchelder Jr.




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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:20 am    Post subject: Hobbs Meter Reply with quote

Westach's hour meter can be hooked up to the AC outlet of the dynamo (alternator). If the alternator isn't developing power, and the diode bridge in the regulator will keep it from feeding back from the battery, the hour meter doesn't run. You can see the wiring instructions here; http://www.westach.com/instructions/2C10-2.jpg 
Don't feel like the Lone Ranger here Damien, my Kolb Mk III had a Honeywell hour meter. During a rebuild of the aircraft when I thought I had the original electrical system disabled I discovered that a wire I thought had no power drove the hour meter until the battery was completely discharged. I ran it on a bench power supply while I was working on the aircraft until it ran through all it's digits and got back to where it should be. After all that I discovered the Westach gauge and bought it.


Rick Girard

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:38 PM, FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com (flyadive(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Richard:

Yes, it does help.  I did find the HOURMETER on ACS.  The ACS site does not mention the RPM when it starts recording nor do they mention if a sensor is required.  They are becoming more and more of a catalog shop and loosing contact with the builders.


Thanks Rich,
Barry

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Richard Wheelwright <rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk (rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk)> wrote:
[quote]Barry,
    I have the 2 1/4" Air Core 270° Movement with just the bear wires from the rear of the instrument. The Yellow wire is the 12V (turned on automatically) Output at 1800 RPM. The Wiring diagram below shows a 9pin Sub D connector with pin 4 showing the Taco output. I hope this helps.
 
http://www.umainstruments.com/pdf/UMA_DB9-Tach_wiring.pdf
 
 
http://www.umainstruments.com/Tachometer.htm
 

 
=============================================

Richard Wheelwright
====================



From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com (flyadive(at)gmail.com)>
To: rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com (rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012, 13:01
Subject: Re: Hobbs Meter


Richard:

Will you direct us to an exact link that has a UMA Hobbs Meter that records at over 2800 RPM?  I searched ACS and nothing popped up.


Thanks,


Barry

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Richard Wheelwright <rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk (rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk)> wrote:


[quote]    If you have the UMA Taco, It has a yellow wire to connect to the Hour Meter, This produses power to the meter over 2800rpm, and is perfect.

 
====================

Richard Wheelwright
====================





From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com (elleryweld(at)aol.com)>
To: rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com (rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, 23 June 2012, 22:18
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Hobbs Meter



You can hook it up with  the oil pressure sensor so it will only run when it has oil pressure
 

Ellery Batchelder Jr.




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