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 Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:50 am Post subject: Update on Garmin G3X |
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Hey Robin and any others flying with the Garmin G3X - we would appreciate an update as to how you like it, pros and cons, would you select it for another aircraft that you might build? ETC……
On another note : "GREASE ON THE WINDSCREEN"
During my 15 years of owning my RV-6A this issue did occur, once, (Hartzell Constant Speed). My findings concluded with the zerk, or grease fittings themselves, were the culprit. Somehow the check ball does not seat properly, allows a slight amount of grease to be released, which then is slung out and shows itself as an ugly pucker factor on the windscreen at cruise. In checking with other owners of RVs, same prop, my issue was not a stand alone issue. The fix of course is simply replacement of the fittings, proper torque, and install the grease fitting end covers with safety wire on all four of them. If you don't have the fitting covers, Hartzell will send you some and they are cheap - any prop shop will of course also have them. It is interesting to note that sometimes pilots/owners told me that their grease fitting issue happened right after they serviced the prop, or after overhaul, and others stated that they had not touched anything on the prop for a year and it just "happened".
Hope that helps some of you. There are certainly other failures that can take place in the prop to cause a loss of oil or grease, but this issue is an easy one to address and have knowledge of.
Regarding Prop Cycling, I completely agree with Kelly. Would you go start your car in the morning and while it is still cold firmly hold the brake pedal down, put the A/T in gear, and at the same time with the other foot push the gas pedal to the floor and perform a WOT stall test on the torque convertor? Might not go over too well with all those cold moving parts in both the engine and transmission. Would it take it? Probably. Would something break? Probably not, but not really the best thing to do if you want things to last. So regarding our props and cycling, we are just trying to respectably check that it is functioning, then go about our flight for the day - just a slight drop in RPM (certainly not under 1500), no oil on the wind screen, back in, and off we go……!
Rich Hansen
6A - sold
10 - fun part - engine install
not fun part, canopy and doors - done
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partner14
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:12 am Post subject: Update on Garmin G3X |
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Dave Moore did a writeup within the last month... also his first flight was within the same month.
From: Karol Hansen <karolamy(at)roadrunner.com>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:47 AM
Subject: Update on Garmin G3X
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Hey Robin and any others flying with the Garmin G3X - we would appreciate an update as to how you like it, pros and cons, would you select it for another aircraft that you might build? ETC……
On another note : "GREASE ON THE WINDSCREEN"
During my 15 years of owning my RV-6A this issue did occur, once, (Hartzell Constant Speed). My findings concluded with the zerk, or grease fittings themselves, were the culprit. Somehow the check ball does not seat properly, allows a slight amount of grease to be released, which then is slung out and shows itself as an ugly pucker factor on the windscreen at cruise. In checking with other owners of RVs, same prop, my issue was not a stand alone issue. The fix of course is simply replacement of the fittings, proper torque, and install the grease fitting end covers with safety wire on all four of them. If you don't have the fitting covers, Hartzell will send you some and they are cheap - any prop shop will of course also have them. It is interesting to note that sometimes pilots/owners told me that their grease fitting issue happened right after they serviced the prop, or after overhaul, and others stated that they had not touched anything on the prop for a year an!
d it just "happened".
Hope that helps some of you. There are certainly other failures that can take place in the prop to cause a loss of oil or grease, but this issue is an easy one to address and have knowledge of.
Regarding Prop Cycling, I completely agree with Kelly. Would you go start your car in the morning and while it is still cold firmly hold the brake pedal down, put the A/T in gear, and at the same time with the other foot push the gas pedal to the floor and perform a WOT stall test on the torque convertor? Might not go over too well with all those cold moving parts in both the engine and transmission. Would it take it? Probably. Would something break? Probably not, but not really the best thing to do if you want things to last. So regarding our props and cycling, we are just trying to respectably check that it is functioning, then go about our flight for the day - just a slight drop in RPM (certainly not under 1500), no oil on the wind screen, back in, and off we go……!
Rich Hansen
6A - sold
10 - fun part - engine install
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: Update on Garmin G3X |
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Rich,
I am extremely pleased with the G3x dual screen system we installed in the 8A. While it does not have the same screen real estate as my Garmin G900X does in my RV 10 the Garmin G3X has worked flawlessly and presents all the information just as I want it. Plus its interface for updating and modifying the display is far superior to the G900X due to its 13 year newer system design. I do not mean to speak for Sean but I am aware that he is thrilled with the performance of his G3x based on our conversations and Sean is extremely knowledgeable of high-end systems being a commercial and executive jet pilot.
All that being said I am also extremely impressed with the Advanced Flight Systems offerings as well as the Dynon Skyview displays. It is interesting how close in price all three of these systems ultimately are for purchase and install. The Garmin definitely has a higher cost of ownership once installed based on you being forced into the Garmin ecosystem for updates but you have the guarantee of a system that will be supported for as long as you are going to be flying.
If I were building a brand-new RV-10 today I would be very hard-pressed to make a decision between the Garmin G3x and the Advanced Flight Systems 10 inch displays. In my opinion it's impossible to make a bad decision between these two systems.
While on the subject of avionics I kicked myself twice every day, once for not putting a Vertical Power system in my RV 10 and once for not putting a Vertical Power system in my 8A.
Good luck,
Robin
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On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:01 AM, "Karol Hansen" <karolamy(at)roadrunner.com> wrote:
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Hey Robin and any others flying with the Garmin G3X - we would appreciate an update as to how you like it, pros and cons, would you select it for another aircraft that you might build? ETC……
On another note : "GREASE ON THE WINDSCREEN"
During my 15 years of owning my RV-6A this issue did occur, once, (Hartzell Constant Speed). My findings concluded with the zerk, or grease fittings themselves, were the culprit. Somehow the check ball does not seat properly, allows a slight amount of grease to be released, which then is slung out and shows itself as an ugly pucker factor on the windscreen at cruise. In checking with other owners of RVs, same prop, my issue was not a stand alone issue. The fix of course is simply replacement of the fittings, proper torque, and install the grease fitting end covers with safety wire on all four of them. If you don't have the fitting covers, Hartzell will send you some and they are cheap - any prop shop will of course also have them. It is interesting to note that sometimes pilots/owners told me that their grease fitting issue happened right after they serviced the prop, or after overhaul, and others stated that they had not touched anything on the prop for a year an!
d it just "happened".
Hope that helps some of you. There are certainly other failures that can take place in the prop to cause a loss of oil or grease, but this issue is an easy one to address and have knowledge of.
Regarding Prop Cycling, I completely agree with Kelly. Would you go start your car in the morning and while it is still cold firmly hold the brake pedal down, put the A/T in gear, and at the same time with the other foot push the gas pedal to the floor and perform a WOT stall test on the torque convertor? Might not go over too well with all those cold moving parts in both the engine and transmission. Would it take it? Probably. Would something break? Probably not, but not really the best thing to do if you want things to last. So regarding our props and cycling, we are just trying to respectably check that it is functioning, then go about our flight for the day - just a slight drop in RPM (certainly not under 1500), no oil on the wind screen, back in, and off we go……!
Rich Hansen
6A - sold
10 - fun part - engine install
not fun part, canopy and doors - done
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Update on Garmin G3X |
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Robin,
Why leave out GRT? Everyone likes their decisions, of course, but I am really happy with my choice of an HX/HS pair. The new HXr may be too new to evaluate, but it looks like a good choice for a larger screen.
I think AFS and GRT are very competitive, and you end up choosing one or the other for personal, individual reasons.
One thing that has pleasantly surprised me is that theses boxes do quite a bit more than is advertised. E.g., the HX will share wx with the HS; the analog inputs on the HX have (if selected on) internal bias resistors, so you don't need to run a power line to flap position sensors, etc.
Bob
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:46 am Post subject: Update on Garmin G3X |
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Bob,
Some of this stuff is timing. When I initially researched my -10 avionics (~5 years ago) the GRT's were solid units with very nice & committed people behind the equipment but the hardware already seemed like legacy equipment. This was all prior to the HX product line etc.. Frankly when It was time to outfit the 8A the narrower G3x screens seem to be ideal for such small area and I was impressed with the performance & stability of my G900x so the G3x was my solution. I never really looked at GRT since I was so familiar with Garmin and impressed with the AFS package and also had a pretty good feeling that AFS had a long term future in experimental avionics. I really do not know enough about GRT to comment on them. All I can say is I hope the marketplace continues to see rapid development of these technologies and that there is enough demand to support the existing manufacturers. I have had a front row seat for both the Blue Mountain and OP retirements and used that as part of my decision making process.
I am thrilled you are happy with GRT. I know these new systems can help us be safer & better pilots. Just today I departed the LA basin and saw on my screen 2 LA county fire choppers, 3 news choppers circling an accident, 5 planes entering or leaving the pattern, a 737 dropping into Burbank as a Lear was launching straight out from Van Nuys in my general direction as a Meridian passed overhead. I saw all the choppers but maybe 6 of the 30 additional targets in and around my departure. Sure beats a six pack.
Robin
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Update on Garmin G3X |
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I'll bet I'm not the only one wondering what is the proper torque value for a Zerk fitting?
Thanks,
Jay
| karolamy(at)roadrunner.co wrote: | Hey Robin and any others flying with the Garmin G3X - we would appreciate an update as to how you like it, pros and cons, would you select it for another aircraft that you might build? ETC��
On another note : "GREASE ON THE WINDSCREEN"
During my 15 years of owning my RV-6A this issue did occur, once, (Hartzell Constant Speed). My findings concluded with the zerk, or grease fittings themselves, were the culprit. Somehow the check ball does not seat properly, allows a slight amount of grease to be released, which then is slung out and shows itself as an ugly pucker factor on the windscreen at cruise. In checking with other owners of RVs, same prop, my issue was not a stand alone issue. The fix of course is simply replacement of the fittings, proper torque, and install the grease fitting end covers with safety wire on all four of them. If you don't have the fitting covers, Hartzell will send you some and they are cheap - any prop shop will of course also have them. It is interesting to note that sometimes pilots/owners told me that their grease fitting issue happened right after they serviced the prop, or after overhaul, and others stated that they had not touched anything on the prop for a year and it just "happened".
Hope that helps some of you. There are certainly other failures that can take place in the prop to cause a loss of oil or grease, but this issue is an easy one to address and have knowledge of.
Regarding Prop Cycling, I completely agree with Kelly. Would you go start your car in the morning and while it is still cold firmly hold the brake pedal down, put the A/T in gear, and at the same time with the other foot push the gas pedal to the floor and perform a WOT stall test on the torque convertor? Might not go over too well with all those cold moving parts in both the engine and transmission. Would it take it? Probably. Would something break? Probably not, but not really the best thing to do if you want things to last. So regarding our props and cycling, we are just trying to respectably check that it is functioning, then go about our flight for the day - just a slight drop in RPM (certainly not under 1500), no oil on the wind screen, back in, and off we go��!
Rich Hansen
6A - sold
10 - fun part - engine install
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nukeflyboy
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Update on Garmin G3X |
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I only have 32 hours on my G3X but I love it. It has all the bells and whistles as the others and then some. Geo-referenced approach plates and safe taxi, for example. Mine is a 3 screen system with PFD and MFD on the pilot side and a screen that does both on the right . These are configurable as are most things on the system. It interfaces flawlessly with the GX pilot A/P and GTN-650.
With respect to operating costs if you are flying IFR I don't see much difference between the competitors. Jeppesen is going to get your $ one way or another.
As I wrote a couple months ago in my comparison between GRT, AFS, and Garmin - there is not much difference in functionality. Dynon is not in the same league assuming you want a full capability IFR machine, otherwise their stuff is good too. I like the landscape screens a little better than the portrait style with the G3X but not enough to justify the price difference (at the time I was looking). I also like having 2 screens on the pilot side in the event that one goes TU.
I use a Dynon D-6 as a backup which is a neat little unit.
If you are wondering if I am happy with the G3X my response is yes. You will get the same response from the GRT and AFS guys too. We all like what we invested so much in.
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karolamy(at)roadrunner.co
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:01 am Post subject: Update on Garmin G3X |
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Thank you Robin and Dave for your good input on the G3X. We appreciate your evaluation and comments as they ARE very helpful for those of us still trying to finalize a panel selection and layout!!!
Rich
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Strasnuts
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:12 am Post subject: Update on Garmin G3X |
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Karol,
As Robin stated, I really enjoy the G3X system. I have had no sensor issues
or system issues with it. Two G3X screens on the pilot's side has more
pixel real estate than one 10.4 screen. With three screens there are
multiple combinations to use. I like having one major brand on the panel
which leads to seamless configurations and easy setup. Having the IFR
NAV/COM the same company as the EFIS's is also nice for setup and is user
friendly with the same functions and button pushing. It also contributes to
a clean and simple layout. Discrete in's on the G3X is very useful, the
other screens probably have this function too. I have my (left door open),
(right door open), (carbon monoxide alert) and (aux power). They are all
easily setup using the grounds and take away random lights on the glare
shield. I also like having a system that is widely used on certified
aircraft. A
lot of units probably mean long term and financial stability.
The downside, as Robin mentioned, is the expensive updates. I pay for a
bundle at $600 for chartview, safe taxi, nav charts, obstacles, terrain,
AOPA and another 300-380? for nav charts on the 430W. The other fee is XM.
Another reason I went with Garmin was to have GTS800 traffic system. This
unit was a lot of work to install, mostly due to the ground plane on the top
antennam but well worth it.
I am able to see the ads-b on planefinder and have the ADS-b in and out to
satisfy the nextgen whenever that rolls out, 2020?, but don't have the
capability to see traffic or weather via ADS-b. However, the XM
weather/music and the active traffic is better, I just have to pay a lot
more for it.
For the record I have a D10 backup that works great too.
My second choice would have been AFS.
Absolutely just my personal opinion and really you can't go wrong with any
of the other screens.
Just wanted to point out my reasons for inquiring minds.
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nukeflyboy
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:09 am Post subject: Re: Update on Garmin G3X |
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That just reminded me of 2 other things.
I have a GTN-650 and part of the deal with it is you buy one subscription and it covers your "system", which for me is the WAAS navigator AND the G3X.
The discrete inputs on the G3X are handy. On my panel design I failed to include an alert that my fuel pump was on. If you takeoff with it running I just had to remember to turn it off. You can guess my success rate on that. Also with the Infinity stick grips the flap switch in (on) off on. It stays on in the up position. You can't hear the motor running so you can also see how easy it is to leave it on.
With the G3X no problem. I wired two of the discrete inputs to give me a caution when either the flap motor or fuel pump is running. You can define your own labels and mine says "fuel pump on" and "flap motor". This displays on the PFD screen and also gives me a yellow annunciator light.
This is just an example of the flexibility of the system.
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Kelly McMullen
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:51 am Post subject: Update on Garmin G3X |
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Is that Garmin or Jeppesen that is granting use of data subscription
for "system"?
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robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:12 am Post subject: Update on Garmin G3X |
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Dave,
My flap motor shuts off when it hits either limit. Nice to have that feature regardless of the visual warnings.
I was thinking yesterday that its been about 5 years since I turned on a transponder from standby to on since my equipment turns on / off automatically. Not sure I would remember moving to a legacy transponder.
Robin
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nukeflyboy
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:30 am Post subject: Re: Update on Garmin G3X |
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Kelly,
Garmin does this. I do not think that it covers a 430/530.
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philperry9
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:57 am Post subject: Update on Garmin G3X |
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I dropped Vans (ShowPlanes) controller in favor of the FPS-Plus Reflex because of the infinite motor run too. I think it's a little more intuitive to operate too.
I still put the visual light on the annunciator panel though just to in case I elect to use a different controller at some point in the future.
Phil
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Dave,
My flap motor shuts off when it hits either limit. Nice to have that feature regardless of the visual warnings.
I was thinking yesterday that its been about 5 years since I turned on a transponder from standby to on since my equipment turns on / off automatically. Not sure I would remember moving to a legacy transponder.
Robin
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:15 am Post subject: Update on Garmin G3X |
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?? I have the Vans (ShowPlanes), it has an upper limit switch and stops when the flaps are up??
Rene' Felker
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I dropped Vans (ShowPlanes) controller in favor of the FPS-Plus Reflex because of the infinite motor run too. I think it's a little more intuitive to operate too.
I still put the visual light on the annunciator panel though just to in case I elect to use a different controller at some point in the future.
Phil
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Dave,
My flap motor shuts off when it hits either limit. Nice to have that feature regardless of the visual warnings.
I was thinking yesterday that its been about 5 years since I turned on a transponder from standby to on since my equipment turns on / off automatically. Not sure I would remember moving to a legacy transponder.
Robin
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:28 am Post subject: Update on Garmin G3X |
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I can't remember if mine wouldn't stop at the upper limit or the lower limit. It has been too long ago. But one of the limits on mine didn't exist.
I also had more for stop positions on the FPS Plus Reflex. It just ended up being a better choice for me.
Phil
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On Jun 23, 2012, at 10:13 AM, "Rene Felker" <rene(at)felker.com (rene(at)felker.com)> wrote:
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?? I have the Vans (ShowPlanes), it has an upper limit switch and stops when the flaps are up??
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Subject: Re: Re: Update on Garmin G3X
I dropped Vans (ShowPlanes) controller in favor of the FPS-Plus Reflex because of the infinite motor run too. I think it's a little more intuitive to operate too.
I still put the visual light on the annunciator panel though just to in case I elect to use a different controller at some point in the future.
Phil
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Robin Marks <robin(at)painttheweb.com (robin(at)painttheweb.com)> wrote:
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Dave,
My flap motor shuts off when it hits either limit. Nice to have that feature regardless of the visual warnings.
I was thinking yesterday that its been about 5 years since I turned on a transponder from standby to on since my equipment turns on / off automatically. Not sure I would remember moving to a legacy transponder.
Robin
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For those who are still considering what system to buy, Dave has an excellent point that is often overlooked: "little things count".
It's easy to overlook the little things. I got some good advice from Stein who steered me toward the Horizon over the Sport, both from GRT, for my needs.
HX has 8 serial inputs, more than the 4 the Sport had. "So what?" I thought. Well, guess what. I ended up using 7 of them! Same thing for analog inputs. When you're new to this it's really hard to know how many you're going to want. But whatever system you settle on don't forget to at least try to see if it has enough of the little things, like digital and analog inputs, that you'll eventually want.
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Bob,
Could you provide a list of the 7 inputs that you used? Thanks.
Ed Godfrey
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For those who are still considering what system to buy, Dave has an excellent point that is often overlooked: "little things count".
It's easy to overlook the little things. I got some good advice from Stein who steered me toward the Horizon over the Sport, both from GRT, for my needs.
HX has 8 serial inputs, more than the 4 the Sport had. "So what?" I thought. Well, guess what. I ended up using 7 of them! Same thing for analog inputs. When you're new to this it's really hard to know how many you're going to want. But whatever system you settle on don't forget to at least try to see if it has enough of the little things, like digital and analog inputs, that you'll eventually want.
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Bob Turner
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Okay, I'm doing this from memory as the wiring diagram is at the airport.
I cannot remember the actual port numbers. For the HX it doesn't matter, they're all the same. For the HS only 2 ports are hi speed. The HX has 8 high speed ports; the HS has 6 total, 2 high speed and 4 low.
Stuff I have to be connected: GRT Horizon HX, Horizon HS, GRT EIS (GRT has engine instruments in a separate box called EIS), remote AHRS (air data, heading reference system and remote magnetometer); Trio Pro autopilot, SL-30 nav/com, G420 com/gps (no VOR), gtx 327 transponder. I have a wxworks xm weather receiver which connects to the HX via a USB connection.
Stuff I have which is not connected to the GRT: home built audio panel/intercom, backup EFIS Dynon D6, hand held GPS, hand held nav/com, magnetic compass(!).
As you probably know, the serial ports come in input/output pairs which are independent except they both have to run at the same speed.
On the HX, serial inputs I have: AHRS, interlink from HS, SL30, gps (from 420), EIS
On the HX, serial outputs I have: AHRS, interlink to HS, SL30, Trio autopilot, EIS, air data (altitude) to GTX 327, XM wx to HS
(This is where I used 7 of the 8 available)
On the HS, serial inputs I have: AHRS, xm wx (this must be high speed port), SL30, interlink from HX, gps from 420, EIS. (I used all 6 available ports).
On the HS, serial outputs, I have: interlink to HX.
You may notice a serial line out to the 420 is missing. Stein wired it so the data going to the GTX327 loops back to the 420 input. Otherwise another serial out from one of the Horizons would have been needed.
I could have moved some of the outputs, like the EIS or even the air data to the transponder, from the HX over to the HS. I would have had to do this if I had only 6 ports (eg two HS units). You'll also notice that there is redundancy, e.g., gps and SL30 wired to both units. This data could go to just one EFIS, and then over the interdisplay link. But this way you don't lose that data if one EFIS fails.
There is also ARINC data (HX only) between the HX, 420, and Trio.
I'd be happy to try to clarify this if you have questions.
Bob
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