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 Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: Building order |
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I have 2 questions about the building order you used when building your -10:
- When did you make the empennage attachment to the tail cone? Was it right after finishing the tail cone, without attaching it to rest of the fuselage or only after attaching the tail cone to the rest of the fuselage?
- When did you begin the wiring in the fuselage? Was it before or after installing the fibreglass cabin cover?
Best
Carlos
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Jim Combs
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:58 pm Post subject: Building order |
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My order.
(1) Attach empennage after attaching tail cone to cabin section.
(2) Begin wiring after installing the cabin top.
Jim Combs
N312F - 380 hours Flying
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On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
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Guys
I have 2 questions about the building order you used when building your -10:
- When did you make the empennage attachment to the tail cone? Was it right after finishing the tail cone, without attaching it to rest of the fuselage or only after attaching the tail cone to the rest of the fuselage?
- When did you begin the wiring in the fuselage? Was it before or after installing the fibreglass cabin cover?
Best
Carlos
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:58 pm Post subject: Building order |
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I attached the tail cone to the fuse, then final mounted the empannage after that.
I'd wire as much as you can before landing gear and before cabin top. The landing gear makes the plane real tall and the cabin top gets in the way for wiring. In the end, it doesn't matter, but I found it easier to wire with it low to the ground and open.
-Mike Kraus
RV-10 Flying and Painted!
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On Jul 1, 2012, at 6:37 PM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
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Guys
I have 2 questions about the building order you used when building your -10:
- When did you make the empennage attachment to the tail cone? Was it right after finishing the tail cone, without attaching it to rest of the fuselage or only after attaching the tail cone to the rest of the fuselage?
- When did you begin the wiring in the fuselage? Was it before or after installing the fibreglass cabin cover?
Best
Carlos
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rnewman(at)tcwtech.com
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject: Building order |
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On my –10,
1) checked fit of empennage to tail cone, then removed for painting, did not re-install until final assembly at airport.
2) did 99% of all wiring with cabin top off and fuse not on the landing gear, but on shop dolly for much better access and mobility.
Bob Newman
N541RV 70 hrs.
www.tcwtech.com
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tomhanaway
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject: Building order |
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Same as Bob. Except for shop dolly which sounds like a great idea.
Tom Hanaway
N518TPÂ 42.6 hours
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 7:19 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: FW: Building order
On my –10,
1) checked fit of empennage to tail cone, then removed for painting, did not re-install until final assembly at airport.
2) did 99% of all wiring with cabin top off and fuse not on the landing gear, but on shop dolly for much better access and mobility.
Bob Newman
N541RV 70 hrs.
www.tcwtech.com
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rleffler
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: Building order |
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Don't attach the cabin cover if you are planning on installing and overhead console. It is easy to install with the cabin cover upside down.
The same goes for the upper fuselage assembly. I wired my panel with the upper fuselage assembly on the dining room table. Much easier than one the airplane. It also goes on and off the aircraft with the cabin cover install
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trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject: Building order |
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Bob
Can you please explain to a non-native English speaker what do you mean by a shop “dolly”
Thanks
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw
Sent: segunda-feira, 2 de Julho de 2012 0:19
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: FW: Building order
On my –10,
1) checked fit of empennage to tail cone, then removed for painting, did not re-install until final assembly at airport.
2) did 99% of all wiring with cabin top off and fuse not on the landing gear, but on shop dolly for much better access and mobility.
Bob Newman
N541RV 70 hrs.
www.tcwtech.com
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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:02 pm Post subject: Building order |
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It is also easier to finish the cabin top (paint or in my case a headliner) with it off the fuselage and upside down. Windows are last on the list – and after final interior paint. Then comes a year or so of fiberglass prep. Doing the fiberglass structure is easy – getting it to look like something you want your name associated with is way hard. Do not fit the wingtips until after you do the trial wing attachment to the fuselage, and after you are absolutely sure you have proper rigging on the flaps and ailerons. The wing tips can move an inch or so up and down so make sure they line up with the correct aileron placement before you drill the mounting holes.
I did everything up to engine mount and first wing fit with the fuselage in the basement on short legs bolted to the spar.
Carl
17 hrs and still chasing my tail trying to get the wheel pants and gear leg fairings properly aligned.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 7:31 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: FW: Building order
Don't attach the cabin cover if you are planning on installing and overhead console. It is easy to install with the cabin cover upside down.
The same goes for the upper fuselage assembly. I wired my panel with the upper fuselage assembly on the dining room table. Much easier than one the airplane. It also goes on and off the aircraft with the cabin cover install.
I think on the gear made wiring easier. You can stand along the fuselage and not have to bend over all the time.
I'm just now fiberglassing the cabin cover and putting in the windows as one of the last tasks to complete
The good thing about this is that there is no right way, just whatever works for you.
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On Jul 1, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net (n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net)> wrote:
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I attached the tail cone to the fuse, then final mounted the empannage after that.
I'd wire as much as you can before landing gear and before cabin top. The landing gear makes the plane real tall and the cabin top gets in the way for wiring. In the end, it doesn't matter, but I found it easier to wire with it low to the ground and open.
-Mike Kraus
RV-10 Flying and Painted!
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 1, 2012, at 6:37 PM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
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Guys
I have 2 questions about the building order you used when building your -10:
- When did you make the empennage attachment to the tail cone? Was it right after finishing the tail cone, without attaching it to rest of the fuselage or only after attaching the tail cone to the rest of the fuselage?
- When did you begin the wiring in the fuselage? Was it before or after installing the fibreglass cabin cover?
Best
Carlos
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rnewman(at)tcwtech.com
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject: Building order |
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Carlos, I made a roll around platform from 2 sheets of (4 x 8 ) plywood screwed to a 2” x 6” framework, attached swivel casters to the platform. In the attached photo you’ll see the fuse sitting on the dolly.
Bob
From: Carlos Trigo (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 7:51 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: FW: Building order
Bob
Can you please explain to a non-native English speaker what do you mean by a shop “dolly”
Thanks
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw
Sent: segunda-feira, 2 de Julho de 2012 0:19
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: FW: Building order
On my –10,
1) checked fit of empennage to tail cone, then removed for painting, did not re-install until final assembly at airport.
2) did 99% of all wiring with cabin top off and fuse not on the landing gear, but on shop dolly for much better access and mobility.
Bob Newman
N541RV 70 hrs.
www.tcwtech.com
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Bob Turner
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: Building order |
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Same as Bob Newman, including the dolly.
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rnewman(at)tcwtech.com
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: Building order |
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just for clarity, 1 sheet of plywood, ripped in half, so final dolly size was 2’ x 8’.
From: bob-tcw (rnewman(at)tcwtech.com)
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 8:18 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: FW: Building order
Carlos, I made a roll around platform from 2 sheets of (4 x 8 ) plywood screwed to a 2” x 6” framework, attached swivel casters to the platform. In the attached photo you’ll see the fuse sitting on the dolly.
Bob
From: Carlos Trigo (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 7:51 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: FW: Building order
Bob
Can you please explain to a non-native English speaker what do you mean by a shop “dolly”
Thanks
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw
Sent: segunda-feira, 2 de Julho de 2012 0:19
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: FW: Building order
On my –10,
1) checked fit of empennage to tail cone, then removed for painting, did not re-install until final assembly at airport.
2) did 99% of all wiring with cabin top off and fuse not on the landing gear, but on shop dolly for much better access and mobility.
Bob Newman
N541RV 70 hrs.
www.tcwtech.com
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Jim Combs
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:10 am Post subject: Building order |
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With regards to making a dolly to move the fuselage around. I adapted some tires during construction to allow me to roll the fuselage around.
Pictures are attached.
Fuselage remained low to make it easy to work on and It was easily moved around.
Jim Combs
N312F
I gave these to someone on the list to use and forward to another builder when then finished.
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Guys
I have 2 questions about the building order you used when building your -10:
- When did you make the empennage attachment to the tail cone? Was it right after finishing the tail cone, without attaching it to rest of the fuselage or only after attaching the tail cone to the rest of the fuselage?
- When did you begin the wiring in the fuselage? Was it before or after installing the fibreglass cabin cover?
Best
Carlos
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johngoodman
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Building order |
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Get your wiring and pneumatic tubing in BEFORE it's up on the legs and BEFORE the canopy is on - unless you are a contortionist....
John
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