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jrlark
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 Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:02 am Post subject: flap positioning |
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Guys
A question for those of you who have the Trutrack auto trim box. When you select flaps to a position other than the reflex position, does the auto trim adjust pitch trim as the flaps deploy?
Also is it standard practise to have a on-off switch wired to the auto trim box?
I've been looking at the "Aircraft Extra's" flap positioning system, but since I intend to also use the Vertical Power VP-X Pro, I think the system is basically redundant.
Thx,
Rick
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Southampton, Ont
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:42 am Post subject: flap positioning |
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<![if !supportLists]>1. <![endif]> I don’t think I have ever moved the flaps when the autopilot was engaged, so really cannot answer. But see no reason why it would not work that way.
<![if !supportLists]>2. <![endif]>I put my autotrim in after my initial install and have it powered off the autopilot. I have a breaker switch powering the autopilot and thus I have a switch that can easily be hit to disconnect (turn off) the autopilot if I have some type of runaway.
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Subject: flap positioning
Guys
A question for those of you who have the Trutrack auto trim box. When you select flaps to a position other than the reflex position, does the auto trim adjust pitch trim as the flaps deploy?
Also is it standard practise to have a on-off switch wired to the auto trim box?
I've been looking at the "Aircraft Extra's" flap positioning system, but since I intend to also use the Vertical Power VP-X Pro, I think the system is basically redundant.
Thx,
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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bill.peyton
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:09 am Post subject: Re: flap positioning |
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Rick
I aiso have the VPX and have it hooked up to control the flps. There is no reason to have anything else controlling the flaps if you use the VPX. You
will have to provide a feedback position sensor . I made a bracket and attached the Ray Allen servo to the actuator arm and attached the
whole thing to the side if the tunnel. The only issue is the VPX does not distinguish the reflex position! You can set the top and the bottom positions and only 2 intermediate positions.
Bill
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jrlark
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:05 am Post subject: flap positioning |
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Gentlemen, I posted an inquiry on the VP forum asking about the reflex position and Bob Lefler also inquired.. Mark Austman posted that the reflex position fix (software change) was to come at a later date, but I understood that the top position could be set up as the reflex position. Am I mistaken?
Rick
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:16 am Post subject: flap positioning |
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Have the VP-200 and I use the Skyview for the –3 indicator, which the VPX works with. So I would assume it’s the same setup.
Here is a picture I took off the Dynon site using the VP-X, not mine. The numbers are setup on the Dynon during the configuration. 0 can be –3 and so on as Kelly states.
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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 7:56 AM
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Subject: Re: Re: flap positioning
I will be using the VPX as well. Any pictures? Couldn't you define the reflex position as top of travel, trailing as 1st intermediate and 1/2 flaps as second intermediate?
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Rick
I aiso have the VPX and have it hooked up to control the flps. There is no reason to have anything else controlling the flaps if you use the VPX. You
will have to provide a feedback position sensor . I made a bracket and attached the Ray Allen servo to the actuator arm and attached the
whole thing to the side if the tunnel. The only issue is the VPX does not distinguish the reflex position! You can set the top and the bottom positions and only 2 intermediate positions.
Bill
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:33 am Post subject: flap positioning |
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You are not mistaken The update impacts the speed controls and restrictions. I.e. going from reflex to 0 shouldn't have the same parameters as going to full flaps. It will also make it more pilot intuitive.
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Gentlemen, I posted an inquiry on the VP forum asking about the reflex position and Bob Lefler also inquired.. Mark Austman posted that the reflex position fix (software change) was to come at a later date, but I understood that the top position could be set up as the reflex position. Am I mistaken?
Rick
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bill.peyton
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:35 am Post subject: Re: flap positioning |
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As bob states, your assumption is correct Rick. The problem is that zero degrees becomes the first stop and then you only get to choose one more prior to full flaps. I think Marc was talking about adding an additional intermediate stop. On the Garmin G3, the display is not so elaborate as the dynon. It is just a bar graph with a sliding pointer.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:59 am Post subject: flap positioning |
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My G3X shows each position.
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dmaib@me.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:15 am Post subject: flap positioning |
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That is exactly how it works on the VP-200 Kelly. I would bet that the VP-X is the same.
David Maib
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On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
I will be using the VPX as well. Any pictures? Couldn't you define the reflex position as top of travel, trailing as 1st intermediate and 1/2 flaps as second intermediate?
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bill.peyton
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: flap positioning |
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I didn't mean to imply it did not show the position, it just is not curved and
as fancy as the dynon graphic
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