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graeme bird

Joined: 15 Jul 2010
Posts: 434

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:24 am Post subject: Jacking up the mono

I am wondering what the best method is, to change tyres etc. I brought a couple of trolley jacks to put under the wing spars (with wooden blocks) but it still needs something under the nose and there isnt a good jack point.

I guess I could use an engine hoist from the top but that all feels complicated. 

There must be a common solution.

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avgashead(at)btinternet.c
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:31 am Post subject: Jacking up the mono

I made a 'goalpost' support out of 40mm box section with a Â£20 bottle jack to lift it. Mail me off forum and I'll send photos.



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On 11 Aug 2012, at 15:24, "graeme bird" <graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:



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 I am wondering what the best method is, to change tyres etc. I brought a couple of trolley jacks to put under the wing spars (with wooden blocks) but it still needs something under the nose and there isnt a good jack point.

 I guess I could use an engine hoist from the top but that all feels complicated. 

 There must be a common solution.

 

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 Graeme Bird

 G-UMPY

 Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Woodcomp 3000/W

 Newby: 35 hours  

 g(at)gdbmk.co.uk

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

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g-iani(at)ntlworld.com
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:09 am Post subject: Jacking up the mono

Graeme



There is a couple of examples of Mono jacking on the Club Web site (http://www.theeuropaclub.org/for-pilots/trailers/handling/)



Richard please let me have anything you would like on the Web site.

Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours

Europa Club Mods Specialist

e-mail g-iani(at)ntlworld.com

JonathanMilbank

Joined: 14 Apr 2012
Posts: 391
Location: Aberdeen area

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Jacking up the mono

I always carry a "jacking piece" welded for me, which can be bolted to the front of the undercarriage swinging arm, after removing the lower two of the existing four bolts whose heads are in a cluster. For stability I always use a trolley jack in preference to a bottle jack. Remember to put the bolts back afterwards.



On two occasions I have used a stout piece of timber with length equal to the width of the fuselage and padding placed between it and the fuselage bottom. This timber is placed as close as possible to the rear of the main wheel and at the rear end of the wheel bay. Again, I use a trolley jack and there have never been any crackling sounds while the fuselage is being lifted.

Fred Klein

Joined: 26 Mar 2012
Posts: 503

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject: Jacking up the mono

This thread is of great interest as I'm nearing the end of my build.  

As I've pondered this issue, I'm thinking that the ideal mechanism  

would do the following:



- stabilize the fuselage when wings are detached,

- function w/ and w/o the cowl attached,

- allow for changing of tire and tube,

- allow for testing of LG retraction and deployment,

- allow for the airplane to be easily moved about a hangar in any  

direction...think of hangar-sharing w/ other aircraft.



To accomplish these goals, I've been thinking about some kind of  

platform/dolly with 3 or 4 castering wheels of sufficient size to roll  

easily on turf, gravel, or concrete combined w/ a hydraulic jack and  

some kind of a cushioned cradle...



Perhaps...in my innocence...I'm over-thinking here, so I'm very  

interested to know whether or not those who have been flying,  

hangaring, transporting, and maintaining their aircraft have dealt  

with these issues with any equipment other than the standard trailer.



Comments and experience appreciated,



Fred

klinefelter.kevin(at)gmai
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject: Jacking up the mono

Hi Fred,

That's quite a list of stuff this thing has to do! But I bet it can be done. That will be a handy hanger accessory.

I feel a need for a small, light, jacking block to use with most any jack that would be part of my tool kit in the aircraft.



Kevin



On Aug 11, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Fred Klein <fklein(at)orcasonline.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 This thread is of great interest as I'm nearing the end of my build. As I've pondered this issue, I'm thinking that the ideal mechanism would do the following:

 

 - stabilize the fuselage when wings are detached,

 - function w/ and w/o the cowl attached,

 - allow for changing of tire and tube,

 - allow for testing of LG retraction and deployment,

 - allow for the airplane to be easily moved about a hangar in any direction...think of hangar-sharing w/ other aircraft.

 

 To accomplish these goals, I've been thinking about some kind of platform/dolly with 3 or 4 castering wheels of sufficient size to roll easily on turf, gravel, or concrete combined w/ a hydraulic jack and some kind of a cushioned cradle...

 

 Perhaps...in my innocence...I'm over-thinking here, so I'm very interested to know whether or not those who have been flying, hangaring, transporting, and maintaining their aircraft have dealt with these issues with any equipment other than the standard trailer.

 

 Comments and experience appreciated,

 

 Fred

g-iani(at)ntlworld.com
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:26 am Post subject: Jacking up the mono

Fred



I have found a picture of trolley that might fit your requirements.  Picture

attached and I have added it to the web site.  I know nothing about it and

the file name does not seem to help.  Looking at the vehicles in the picture

it looks European but not UK.



Does anyone know who built it or more details?

Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours

Europa Club Mods Specialist

e-mail g-iani(at)ntlworld.com 



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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:44 am Post subject: Jacking up the mono

I think it is Finland or Denmark, Used to know his name but can't quite remember, Jens Szabo?

I know he sold his project unfinished, family reasons. He was in the Air Force and worked on F16  perhaps?

Sorry about the head scratching!



Graham

        From: G-IANI <g-iani(at)ntlworld.com>

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2012, 10:25

 Subject: RE: Jacking up the mono

  

 

Fred



I have found a picture of trolley that might fit your requirements.  Picture

attached and I have added it to the web site.  I know nothing about it and

the file name does not seem to help.  Looking at the vehicles in the picture

it looks European but not UK.



Does anyone know who built it or more details?

Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours

Europa Club Mods Specialist

e-mail g-iani(at)ntlworld.com (g-iani(at)ntlworld.com) 



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stabelvej9(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:58 am Post subject: Jacking up the mono

Correct, Graham  -  as always    -  F16, RDAF, name ...It was build by Jens Aabo, Jens Kristensen and me.

We build three examples, and Jens Aabo, Jens Kristensen and i each have one.

Works great.

I can upload detailed pictures if anybody is interested.

Gert

OY-GDS / mono / 914







Den 12/08/2012 kl. 11.44 skrev GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com (grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com)>:

[quote]I think it is Finland or Denmark, Used to know his name but can't quite remember, Jens Szabo?

I know he sold his project unfinished, family reasons. He was in the Air Force and worked on F16  perhaps?

Sorry about the head scratching!



Graham

        From: G-IANI <g-iani(at)ntlworld.com (g-iani(at)ntlworld.com)>

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2012, 10:25

 Subject: RE: Jacking up the mono

  

 

Fred



I have found a picture of trolley that might fit your requirements.  Picture

attached and I have added it to the web site.  I know nothing about it and

the file name does not seem to help.  Looking at the vehicles in the picture

it looks European but not UK.



Does anyone know who built it or more details?

Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours

Europa Club Mods Specialist

e-mail g-iani(at)ntlworld.com (g-iani(at)ntlworld.com) 



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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:07 am Post subject: Jacking up the mono

Thanks Gert, give my regards to Jens if you see him. 



Graham



        From: Gert Dalgaard Sørensen <stabelvej9(at)gmail.com>

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2012, 11:57

 Subject: Re: Jacking up the mono

  

 

Correct, Graham  -  as always    -  F16, RDAF, name  ...It was build by Jens Aabo, Jens Kristensen and me.

We build three examples, and Jens Aabo, Jens Kristensen and i each have one.

Works great.

I can upload detailed pictures if anybody is interested.

Gert

OY-GDS / mono / 914







Den 12/08/2012 kl. 11.44 skrev GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com (grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com)>:

[quote]I think it is Finland or Denmark, Used to know his name but can't quite remember, Jens Szabo?

I know he sold his project unfinished,  family reasons. He was in the Air Force and worked on F16  perhaps?

Sorry about the head scratching!



Graham

        From: G-IANI <g-iani(at)ntlworld.com (g-iani(at)ntlworld.com)>

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2012, 10:25

 Subject: RE: Europa-List:  Jacking up the mono

  

 

Fred



I have found a picture of trolley that might fit your requirements.  Picture

attached and I have added it to the web site.  I know nothing about it and

the file name does not seem to help.  Looking at the vehicles in the picture

it looks European but not UK.



Does anyone know who built it or more details?

Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours

Europa Club Mods Specialist

e-mail g-iani(at)ntlworld.com (g-iani(at)ntlworld.com) 



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Fred Klein

Joined: 26 Mar 2012
Posts: 503

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: Jacking up the mono

On Aug 12, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Gert Dalgaard Sørensen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I can upload detailed pictures if anybody is interested. 	




Gert...that would be very kind of you...your rig looks very interesting to me...Fred

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stabelvej9(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:07 am Post subject: Jacking up the mono

OK, check here:   http://www.dalgaard1.dk/Dalgaard/Europa_jig.html



Den 12/08/2012 kl. 15.48 skrev Fred Klein <fklein(at)orcasonline.com (fklein(at)orcasonline.com)>:

[quote]On Aug 12, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Gert Dalgaard Sørensen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I can upload detailed pictures if anybody is interested. 	




Gert...that would be very kind of you...your rig looks very interesting to me...Fred

[b]

Fred Klein

Joined: 26 Mar 2012
Posts: 503

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:04 am Post subject: Jacking up the mono

Excellent...thank you Gert,



Fred



On Aug 12, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Gert Dalgaard Sørensen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  	OK, check here:   http://www.dalgaard1.dk/Dalgaard/Europa_jig.html

	


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