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 Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: Attaching "uninsulated ring terminals" to 4 awg wire... |
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The wire size markings on the Harbor Freight crimper are not only mismarked but the make a crappy crimp when you do get them to sort of work.With Amp #4 solder on terminals I have had success with the "G" (5/32") Nico sleeve swager on my GCMP (1/16 to 5/32) tool. I hit it three times the same way I would a Nico sleeve so that there is a slight bubble between each and it worked great. Afterward I used three brushed on coats of enamel paint to seal everything up followed by glue lined heat shrink tubing (your basic belt and suspenders approach). Four years and no sign of corrosion on the open end.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:58 PM, <berkut13(at)berkut13.com (berkut13(at)berkut13.com)> wrote:
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Works great, but do NOT go by the wire size markings on the various crimping dies...they are WAY off the mark. (or at least were on my unit)
-James
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rickofudall
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:44 pm Post subject: Attaching "uninsulated ring terminals" to 4 awg wire... |
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Didn't mean to be rude, our 19 year old cat stepped on the keyboard and sent the post for me.
Rick Girard
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com (aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]The wire size markings on the Harbor Freight crimper are not only mismarked but the make a crappy crimp when you do get them to sort of work. With Amp #4 solder on terminals I have had success with the "G" (5/32") Nico sleeve swager on my GCMP (1/16 to 5/32) tool. I hit it three times the same way I would a Nico sleeve so that there is a slight bubble between each and it worked great. Afterward I used three brushed on coats of enamel paint to seal everything up followed by glue lined heat shrink tubing (your basic belt and suspenders approach). Four years and no sign of corrosion on the open end.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:58 PM, <berkut13(at)berkut13.com (berkut13(at)berkut13.com)> wrote:
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Works great, but do NOT go by the wire size markings on the various crimping dies...they are WAY off the mark. (or at least were on my unit)
-James
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rickofudall
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject: Attaching "uninsulated ring terminals" to 4 awg wire... |
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Okay, I caught my own mistake, the "G" swager is the 1/16", the "P" is the 5/32".
Rick
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com (aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Didn't mean to be rude, our 19 year old cat stepped on the keyboard and sent the post for me.
Rick Girard
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com (aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]The wire size markings on the Harbor Freight crimper are not only mismarked but the make a crappy crimp when you do get them to sort of work. With Amp #4 solder on terminals I have had success with the "G" (5/32") Nico sleeve swager on my GCMP (1/16 to 5/32) tool. I hit it three times the same way I would a Nico sleeve so that there is a slight bubble between each and it worked great. Afterward I used three brushed on coats of enamel paint to seal everything up followed by glue lined heat shrink tubing (your basic belt and suspenders approach). Four years and no sign of corrosion on the open end.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:58 PM, <berkut13(at)berkut13.com (berkut13(at)berkut13.com)> wrote:
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Works great, but do NOT go by the wire size markings on the various crimping dies...they are WAY off the mark. (or at least were on my unit)
-James
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:28 am Post subject: Attaching "uninsulated ring terminals" to 4 awg wire... |
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| Quote: | Consider soldering un-insulated terminals and dressing out with heat shrink. Â
I did my large wires with this method, and it worked very well. Â The blowtorch makes a bit of a mess of the insulation near the terminals, but that gets covered up neatly by heatshrink. Â
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On 11 August 2012 13:24, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
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At 09:30 PM 8/10/2012, you wrote:
| Quote: | --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Michael Burbidge <mburbidg(at)gmail.com (mburbidg(at)gmail.com)>
I'm using the "uninsulated ring terminals" for 4 awg wire from the contractors to my bus and alternator. Are the terminals sold by B&C meant to be crimped or soldered? If crimped where can I get a crimper big enough to handle 4 awg. B&C only sells ones that handle up to 10 awg wire.
Thanks,
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  Crimp tools for the larger terminals are
  pretty pricey. Further, most airplanes will
  need only a handful of large terminals. Consider
  soldering un-insulated terminals and dressing
  out with heat shrink. See:
http://tinyurl.com/9pbvky8
 Bob . . .
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