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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Zenith701801-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 08/18/12 Reply with quote
Thanks for all the info. I'll not be putting any more vents in.

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     1. 08:27 AM - 701 air vent  (sam hord)
     2. 09:06 AM - Re: 701 air vent  (John Marzulli)
     3. 10:15 AM - Re: 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL  (JobeCreek)
     4. 11:37 AM - 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims  (Keith Ashcraft)
     5. 11:51 AM - Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims  (MacDonald Doug)
     6. 11:56 AM - Re: 701 air vent  (MacDonald Doug)
     7. 12:20 PM - Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims  (Keith Ashcraft)
     8. 12:47 PM - Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims  (Doug MacDonald)
     9. 01:33 PM - Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims  (John Marzulli)



________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 08:27:43 AM PST US
Subject: 701 air vent
From: sam hord <samhord2(at)gmail.com (samhord2(at)gmail.com)>

Has anyone put an air vent in the cowl of a 701 for cooling at their feet?
I was thinking of just forward of the door down low. What kind of vent?

________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 09:06:29 AM PST US
Subject: Re: 701 air vent
From: John Marzulli <john.marzulli(at)gmail.com (john.marzulli(at)gmail.com)>

I was just flying yesterday with the doors on in 90F weather.

The bubble doors are hard to seal to wind will just come in. You won't need
vents for your feet.


John Marzulli

http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/


On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:27 AM, sam hord <samhord2(at)gmail.com (samhord2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

> Has anyone put an air vent in the cowl of a 701 for cooling at their feet?
> I was thinking of just forward of the door down low. What kind of vent?
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Time: 10:15:50 AM PST US
Subject: Re: 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL
From: "JobeCreek" <AnIdleKing(at)att.net (AnIdleKing(at)att.net)>


Thanks to all so far.  Will check the gear attachment.  Interesting idea.

And redo weight and balance.

Further ideas welcome


Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381158#381158


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Time: 11:37:48 AM PST US
From: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder(at)yahoo.com (ch701builder(at)yahoo.com)>
Subject: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims


All,
Any easy way to prevent the o-ring seal from sliding down the rim while mating
the other half of the rim? The directions on page -15- do not exactly work real
well.

Thanks,

Keith

________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________


Time: 11:51:48 AM PST US
From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com (dougsnash(at)yahoo.com)>
Subject: Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims

I don't recall the trick I used for the o-ring but it is a bit tricky to do
.- I think I worked in a circular pattern slightly tightening up the bolt
s and making sure the o-ring did not get pinched as I went (pulled it free)
.- My memory is a little sparse on this step though because it was about
five years ago.-=0A-=0AOne thing you might want to do after you get the
 rim halves mated but before inflating the tires-is grease the o-ring.-
 I and another builder each-had one wheel that would not seal.- Coincid
entally both were the nose wheels. -A little white lithium grease spary o
n the o-ring of the offending wheel and neither of us have had any more lea
ks.=0A-=0ASomething to consider=0A-=0ADoug M=0ACH-701 from scratch=0ANW
 Ontario, Canada=0A=0AFrom: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder(at)yahoo.com (ch701builder(at)yahoo.com)>=0ATo: "
zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)" <zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)> =0ASent:
 Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:36:51 PM=0ASubject: 701 Mou
nting Matco Tubless Tires to rims=0A=0A=0A=0AAll,=0AAny easy way to prevent
 the o-ring seal from sliding down the rim while mating the other half of t
he rim? The directions on page -15- do not exactly work real well.=0A=0ATha
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Time: 11:56:53 AM PST US
From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com (dougsnash(at)yahoo.com)>
Subject: Re: 701 air vent

Sam, I installed Van's RV-10 back seat vents on either side of my boot cowl
 fairly close to where my knees are.- Generally speaking, they were unnec
cessary.- The only time I've used them they didn't help much because it w
as so hot that no amount of airflow was going to cool me off.- The snap v
ents on the bubble doors move lots of air into the cockpit while flying so
additional venting is not reallly needed.=0A-=0ADoug M=0ACH-701 from scra
tch--=0ANW Ontario, Canada=0A=0AFrom: sam hord <samhord2(at)gmail.com (samhord2(at)gmail.com)>=0AT
o: zenith list <zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)> =0ASent: Saturday, August
18, 2012 10:27:05 AM=0ASubject: 701 air vent=0A=0A=0AHas
 anyone put an air vent in the cowl of a 701 for cooling at their feet? I w
as thinking of just forward of the door down low. What kind of vent?=0A=0A
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________________________________  Message 7  _____________________________________


Time: 12:20:25 PM PST US
From: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder(at)yahoo.com (ch701builder(at)yahoo.com)>
Subject: Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims

Hi Doug,=0AI just found online the directions for the 5" series rims, and..
. I got it to work. They state roll the o-ring to the bead part of the rim
. It stays there enough to get the other rim half bolted. I will go back an
 put some of the lithium grease on it before I finish everything.=0A=0AAlso
, what tire pressure did you start out with?=0A=0AThanks again,=0AKeith=0A*
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> =0ASent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:51 PM=0ASubject: Re: Zenith701801-L
ist: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims=0A =0A=0AI don't recall the t
rick I used for the o-ring but it is a bit tricky to do.- I think I worke
d in a circular pattern slightly tightening up the bolts and making sure th
e o-ring did not get pinched as I went (pulled it free).- My memory is a
little sparse on this step though because it was about five years ago.-
=0A-=0AOne thing you might want to do after you get the rim halves mated
but before inflating the tires-is grease the o-ring.- I and another bui
lder each-had one wheel that would not seal.- Coincidentally both were
the nose wheels. -A little white lithium grease spary on the o-ring of th
e offending wheel and neither of us have had any more leaks.=0A-=0ASometh
ing to consider=0A-=0ADoug M=0ACH-701 from scratch=0ANW Ontario, Canada
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t 18, 2012 1:36:51 PM=0ASubject: 701 Mounting Matco Tubl
ess Tires to rims=0A=0A=0A=0AAll,=0AAny easy way to prevent the o-ring seal
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Time: 12:47:39 PM PST US
Subject: Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims
From: Doug MacDonald <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com (dougsnash(at)yahoo.com)>

It doesn't take much pressure to fill these tires, only a couple of psi I th
ink.  I don't specifically fill them to a pressure now.  I usually just fill
 them enough so they keep their shape.

Doug M
Nw Ontario, Canada

Sent from my iPad

On 2012-08-18, at 2:20 PM, Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder(at)yahoo.com (ch701builder(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

> Hi Doug,
> I just found online the directions for the 5" series rims, and.... I got i
t to work. They state roll the o-ring to the bead part of the rim. It stays t
here enough to get the other rim half bolted. I will go back an put some of t
he lithium grease on it before I finish everything.
>
> Also, what tire pressure did you start out with?
>
> Thanks again,
> Keith
> ************************************************************
>
>
> From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com (dougsnash(at)yahoo.com)>
> To: "zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)" <zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)>

> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:51 PM
> Subject: Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims
>
> I don't recall the trick I used for the o-ring but it is a bit tricky to d
o.  I think I worked in a circular pattern slightly tightening up the bolts a
nd making sure the o-ring did not get pinched as I went (pulled it free).  M
y memory is a little sparse on this step though because it was about five ye
ars ago.
>
> One thing you might want to do after you get the rim halves mated but befo
re inflating the tires is grease the o-ring.  I and another builder each had
 one wheel that would not seal.  Coincidentally both were the nose wheels.  A
 little white lithium grease spary on the o-ring of the offending wheel and n
either of us have had any more leaks.
>
> Something to consider
>
> Doug M
> CH-701 from scratch
> NW Ontario, Canada
>
> From: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder(at)yahoo.com (ch701builder(at)yahoo.com)>
> To: "zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)" <zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)>

> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:36:51 PM
> Subject: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims
>
>
> All,
> Any easy way to prevent the o-ring seal from sliding down the rim while ma
ting the other half of the rim? The directions on page -15- do not exactly w
ork real well.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
>
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Time: 01:33:56 PM PST US
Subject: Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims
From: John Marzulli <john.marzulli(at)gmail.com (john.marzulli(at)gmail.com)>

It helps to have two people when doing the o-rings.

I'm using the 21" tires at 8PSI which makes them about 19".


John Marzulli

http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/


On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Doug MacDonald <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com (dougsnash(at)yahoo.com)>wrote:

> It doesn't take much pressure to fill these tires, only a couple of psi I
> think.  I don't specifically fill them to a pressure now.  I usually just
> fill them enough so they keep their shape.
>
> Doug M
> Nw Ontario, Canada
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 2012-08-18, at 2:20 PM, Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder(at)yahoo.com (ch701builder(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
>
> Hi Doug,
> I just found online the directions for the 5" series rims, and.... I got
> it to work. They state roll the o-ring to the bead part of the rim. It
> stays there enough to get the other rim half bolted. I will go back an put
> some of the lithium grease on it before I finish everything.
>
> Also, what tire pressure did you start out with?
>
> Thanks again,
> Keith
> ************************************************************
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* MacDonald Doug <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com (dougsnash(at)yahoo.com)>
> *To:* "zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)" <zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:51 PM
> *Subject:* Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims
>
> I don't recall the trick I used for the o-ring but it is a bit tricky to
> do.  I think I worked in a circular pattern slightly tightening up the
> bolts and making sure the o-ring did not get pinched as I went (pulled it
> free).  My memory is a little sparse on this step though because it was
> about five years ago.
>
> One thing you might want to do after you get the rim halves mated but
> before inflating the tires is grease the o-ring.  I and another builder
> each had one wheel that would not seal.  Coincidentally both were the nose
> wheels.  A little white lithium grease spary on the o-ring of the offending
> wheel and neither of us have had any more leaks.
>
> Something to consider
>
> Doug M
> CH-701 from scratch
> NW Ontario, Canada
>
>   *From:* Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder(at)yahoo.com (ch701builder(at)yahoo.com)>
> *To:* "zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)" <zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com (zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com)>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:36:51 PM
> *Subject:* 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims
>
>
> All,
> Any easy way to prevent the o-ring seal from sliding down the rim while
> mating the other half of the rim? The directions on page -15- do not
> exactly work real well.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
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